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2009 East Asian Games Hong Kong

Discussion in 'East Asian Games / South East Asian Games (SEA Gam' started by vorxaw, Nov 5, 2009.

  1. limsy

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    hmm
    thanks cooler
    lets start with some statistic

    choi did 10 unforce error in 1st set,another 11 in 2nd set
    lindan did 9 unforce error in 1st set,12 unforce eror in 2nd set(include the final point that lindan fail to it the birdie)

    choi score with 6 smash+2 leaping smash+one drive+two net kill in 1st set
    lindan score with 5 smash+1 cross court smash in 1st set

    choi score with 2 smash+2 leaping smash+1 cross court smash+1 back hand smash+1 fake smash+1 net kill in 2nd set
    lindan score one cross court smash in 2nd set

    with the amout of unforce error by opponent,the usual lindan can finish off his opponent below 10 points:)
    well
    i would say that,lindan is taking choi abit lightly
    choi smash is strong,but i think lindan didnt clear the shuttle to the save area thus choi able to smash it.
    just a off day for lindan. full stop.
     
  2. robin7

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    Thanks. Much better quality.
     
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    As far as I know, that rule has been changed. Now you just need to have the shaft pointing downward. You may still be right, but now the frame can be higher than the knuckles and still be within the rules.
     
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    its been a while since i've seen Lin Dan lose like this... being attacked from all angles...
     
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    That rule change was discussed in this thread, which includes this image, which shows a shaft on a downward angle but where the knuckles would definitely be below the top of the racquet frame.
     
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    thanks for the links. Look like i was serving too passively for 3 whole years:eek:
     
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    One reason why LD lost was CJ's withdrawal. If he had played, CHJ wouldn't be as fresh in the final. LD played two matches the day before compared to CHJ's one. (although LD had a bye in the first round which CHJ had to play.)

    But as BadMania analysed rather convincingly, LD hasn't been successful in winning individual title after helping clinch the team in previous other Games. Here, LD had to play 5 mid level non-CHN opponents in a row, not being gifted any match holiday with any CHN MS, a situation he's not used to. Worse, he had to play non-CHN MS in both SF and F. In all his career to date, this is probably the fifth such encounter. All other tournament finals, he either played a CHN MS in the SF or F. So that's probably the key to LD's titles. This suggests that LD has to be fresher than his opponent or be energised by the jiayu crowd to win.

    Of course it could be LD thought that , looking at the field, he could just turn up and win. The EAG field looked like a playground compared to the MS minefield in SSMF. Was he wrong.

    The key reason for his loss was CHJ's perception of LD. CHJ's body language indicated he was not intimidated by or in awe of Superdan.
    LD was confident at the start of the match;note the unmistakeable swagger. The swagger disappeared after score 8-5 when CHJ forced LD to struggle with some shocking shots. Amazingly, CHJ also outnetted LD in the match.
    In both games, CHJ was trailing in the beginning but he overtook LD in the last quarter or so.

    CHJ's calm demeanour helped him keep his focus. No extreme emotions expressed after a big winning point or miss during the match. Look at how he reacted after sealing the matchpoint. Dropped the racket, then shook hands with LD like he's just another MS.

    There's no such thing as losing a match because it's not important. The danger of a top player losing to an unfancied opponent is this: It gives belief to other opponents that they can do the same. Top players continue to win partly because most of their opponents lack the self belief. ( Look at tennis pro, Davydenko. He has never beaten Federer. But after Federer lost to average Benneteau, who celebrated his win like he's done the impossible, Davydenko must be thinking, If Benneteau can, surely i can.)

    This match proves that, regardless of a player's titles, match preparation is key to winning a match, more so against unheard of opponents who do their homework.
     
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    Thanks for the pics..

    ..thank you, suetyan, for diligently scouring the internet, downloading and posting the pics here for us!:cool:...any more?..;)
     
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    CHJ played quite well. he was attacking LD from all angles. his smashes were also very accurate and powerful.
    whether or not LD underestimated his opponent, who knows? i would say LD was surprised at the shots CHJ had in his arsenal. even when LD played a good clear to the back court, CHJ could still play a smash winner. CHJ was unpredictable in his shot selections too IMO. he moved LD a fair bit and also alternated between clears and smashes.
     
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    Yes, although CHJ has got no any experience playing in international stage, he can even KO the OG champion, Lin dan in 2 sets:eek:
    Quite incredible isn't it?;)

    This shows that Upsets do happen and Not everyone is PERFECT :)
     
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    We ought to congratulate the winner

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    We ought to congratulate CHJ for his great win. :):):)

    LD was just off-form on the day. It won't be easy for CHJ to defeat LD again.
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    Who knows if LD is off form again when he meet CHJ another time?:)

    Nobody knows:D
     
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    We ought to congratulate CHJ for his great win the last time

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    LD will know if he is off-form again or not; not nobody knows. :p:p:p
    But we ought to congratulate CHJ for his great win the last time. :):):)
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    Yes, although that's a long time ago story. But still that's a history already i can say..congrats to this guy once again:D..

    It's No One will know;) hehe
     
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    That's the good thing about BadmintonCentral

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    That's the good thing about BadmintonCentral; We can go back to read what were posted here, when we find time. :):):)
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