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2014 CHINA Masters GP Gold Entry List

Discussion in 'Singapore Open / New Zealand Open / China Master 2' started by CLELY, Mar 21, 2014.

  1. CLELY

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    Why is there only 12 participants in the WS and WD?? How can they have a tournament with only 12 entries.

    How come nobody wants to participate.
     
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    WS has 12 player! :eek:What? This china GPG should downgrade to GP or Maybe future serise if not has LD and WZM participate in this event.:D
    China IC WS has 32 player.:rolleyes:
    Hope to Gu Juan will take her 1st GPG here.
     
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    The tournament's dates are the problem.
    It's immediately after the Singapore Open.
     
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    Yes,but another player prefer to play in New zealand GP than china GPG.:p
     
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    What a tragedy this is :mad:

    Who in their right mind would put up a schedule with back to back GPG/SS/SS/GPG&GP?

    China Masters offers $250k in prize money, same as India SS and twice that of Swiss and Malaysia GPG.

    This will give tournament sponsors a pause, not good for badminton.

    Also quite a missed opportunity for many players who would have received a big cheque and a bundle of ranking points by just showing up.
     
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    Not only do the two tournament schedules clash, the prize money for the CHN Masters GPG is much higher at USD250K and the NZ GP is merely USD50K. Then why do many players from the ROW 'prefer' to participate in the latter event to the former? I'd hazard a guess - maybe only the brave dare to play at the CHN Masters because the risk of getting unceremoniously bundled out by any CHN 'nobodies' or lesser known players in the early rounds is considerably higher than normal.Just saying.

    In the WS, who would think Liu Xin, Yao Xue,Chen Xiaojia and Hui Xirui as easy meat? Actually, before the closing date there's no way of knowing which top CHN WS might be competing. In the MS, obviously, Lin Dan, Wang Zhengming and Tian Houwei are the main stumbling block. For the MD,WD and XD, CHN fielded only their 2nd tier and junior pairs - not that difficult to deal with , generally speaking, but since the ROW are giving the MS and WS a miss, it is unlikely as well as awkward for them to send contestants accompanied by coaches and support staff to the said three doubles disciplines only. Just speculating,I may not be right.

    Furthermore, to have both these two tournaments immediately following the two SS events back-to-back, namely the IND Open and the SIN Open, is a bad idea. How many of the players from the said two SS tourneys would go on to play in either the CHN Masters or NZ GP? In the end, such a disappointing turnout for the WS category with the non-CHN participants grossly under-represented.

    Let's hope this time it's just an isolated case and that BWF won't let it happen again. Moreover,note that there is also the Badminton Asia Championships from 22-27th April, two days later; another fairly important consideration, particularly for Asian competitors.
     
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    What is this !!! Just 12 participants in WS !!!:eek: Direct entry to quarterfinals or semifinals ?? !!!!:confused:;)
     
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    I hope to see the MS draw pit Lin Dan in the early rounds up to QF at least against the non-CHN players like Wei Nan, Ng Ka Long, Chan Yan Kit, Tam Chun Hei, Suppanyu, Thammasin, Goh Soon Huat, Zainuddin, and Derek Wong, rather than his fellow teammates whose game he's quite familiar with - that'll be a reasonably good test for him.
     
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    So that is GPG/SS/SS/GPG&GP/Continental Championship (GPG) five weeks in a row.

    Plus, the World Juniors takes place from April 7 to April 18. Many top juniors would be great candidates for GPG/GP and even SS competitions.

    And then for the rest of year, already cancelled are 2 GPG, 1 GP, 4 International Challenge and 2 Futures Series.

    What is BWF thinking? Or is BWF thinking or smoking?
     
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    Why doesn't CBA at least just fill out the tournament with their 2nd team.
     
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    Good question. But the 2nd Team is probably busy with the World Junior.

    However, CBA could easily put in very competitive players from the local teams. The host province JiangSu is a hot bed for badminton talents. JiangSu and neighbouring provinces can supply plenty of good players. The travelling cost is minimal.

    The organizer recently announced that the tickets before the quarter-finals are free. Looking back, they probably already knew that there would almost be no games played before the quarter-final stage.
     
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    one can excuse everything but that made people think why ROF prefer to play in other tournament.
     
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    it's inevitable that clashes will occur. There are an increasing number of tournaments and a limited number of weeks in the year.

    It's a positive development for the game. More tournaments for players of lower rankings to pick and choose from. More tournaments can accommodate more players.

    Definitely surprised that at the low entry for China's GPG but yeah, I'd agree it's not that attractive to be bundled out by their 2nd tier. The price of China's success!
     
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    That makes me wonder and surprised...

    Yeah, really advantageous as they will get many ranking points without playing ;)
     
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    even when china master had super series status
    foreign player % and participation was still the lowest(in super series)
    so when china master lost super series status(which is reasonable),the foreign player % and participation decreases become inevitable
     
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    A major problem is caused by the Asian Games this year and, to a lesser degree, the Commonwealth and Youth Olympics. Originally, the June/July string was arguably worse. It had GPG/SS/SSP/SS/GP/GPG/GPG and only the cancelled Thai Open has been dropped off the front so there are still 6 in a row, though one is a GP.

    We've seen similar things in the past, too. At the end of 2011, There were 9 of 10 weeks with GPG or above and that one week off, between Bitburger and Macau, was the SEA Games. The 9 were 2 SSP, 2 SS, one SSF, and 4 GPG.

    But it's true that it seems the China Masters just can't win. Last autumn it was near the beginning of a 15-week stretch of GP to SSF events.
     
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    Good analysis.

    For China Masters, the World Junior Championship is also a real problem. Those up and coming junior doubles teams we saw in India Open GPG and the likes of HBJ, QJJ can easily make China Masters a lot more interesting. In return, those ranking points will help their transition into the senior circuit easier.

    No matter how many events are there, the players will only play around 15 anyway. But the high number of events in a short period will dilute the commercial value of these events. BWF should better protect their properties and the interest of the event organizers and sponsor.
     
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    Bwf can control top 10 players to participate in ss tournaments. But can't control with regard to gpg tournaments. And also, china could have filled those empty places. But they did not. This type of situation seem to have arised for the first time . Any other gpg tournements did not replicate this situation .
     
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    As RedShuttle and event have rightly pointed out, the fact that there are so many tournaments bunched up in the same quarter of the year is the cause of the problem and does nobody any good. It's not as if CHN's loss or failure is the ROW's gain, not at all. I'm pretty sure BWF, the organizers concerned and the all-important sponsors will want to see a better spread of the tournaments for maximum benefits for everyone.

    It is, sadly speaking, cynical,unconstructive and smacks of ill-will to criticize for the sake of criticism without self-reflection of his real motive. Needless to say, no-one in his right mind would think CHN , or any other member association for that matter,deliberately allow a BWF-sanctioned event held on their home soil to fail. I trust BWF will take heed of this undesirable incident, draw useful lessons from it and improve on the coordination and planning of future tournament schedule.

    If I remember correctly, immediately after the LOG'12, the Chinese Taipei GPG had to be postponed to a later date and even then the turnout was poor as happened to a few other tournaments in similar circumstances. So, instead of finger-pointing any host association, a much better approach would be for all the parties involved to come together, do a root cause analysis and work out a solution for it to prevent future re-occurrence.
     

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