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4 knot, 2 knot or is there 3 knot?

Discussion in 'Badminton String' started by alexkho, Jun 18, 2008.

  1. alexkho

    alexkho Regular Member

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    i was wondering when stringing a racket ? which is the best method 4 knot
    2 knot ... and i heard there is method of stringing in 3 knot ?
     
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    do some searches, you will find out.

    2 knots = single pc string
    4 knots = 2 pc string
    3 knots = yet to create...........:D

    so far, 4 knots is the best
     
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    I have been told that 4 knot method is used for non MP frames as the string needs to be able to move on Muscle Power style frames...???
     
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    Correct me if I am wrong.
    Doesn't yonex stringing methods apply 3 knots? 2 tied off at the bottom and 1 at the top.
     
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    1 piece of string has 2 ends...I cant imagine how to get 3 knots...:D
     
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    h4n5ip Regular Member

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    Yes you are correct.
    So yonex stringing patern has 4 knots then.
     
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    Dream Hai Regular Member

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    2 or 4 knot depends on the stringer...I only know that the Muscle Power frames are said to use the 2 knots method so as to allow the string bed to move freely...:)Here in Vietnam we only use the 2 knots method unless we are repairing one section of string..
     
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    Two on one side of the bottom. One on the other bottom side, and one on the top. That's four. :)
     
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    Muscle power frames have nothing to do with the number of knots. It also does not allow the stringbed to move freely. Muscle power is a sexy word for a different type of grommets, more rounded archways similar to wrapping a string around a round pole instead of a square post. Its benefit is that the string is held more firmly and hence more power and less tension loss. Its disadvantage is its greater bulk and weight which produce more air resistance.
    Using one piece two knots stringing is a very ancient stringing parctice, necessary in the old days when stringing was done by hand with an awl pushed into the grommet/string instead of today's clamping. It (one pc, 2 knots) however produces 3rd rate stringing for today's modern racquet frames, including muscle power frames.
     
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    :eek:
    please do not do that again.........
     
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    well i was told that 2 knot hold tension better than 4 knot ....
    well it's impossible here in indiana to find a good person to string your racket....
     
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    they must be tennis players because 2 knot does hold tension better in tennis frames , unless u absolutely have to use 4 knots (hybrid tennis string setup) then tennis stringers will use 2 knot method usually, but in badminton it is always best to use 4 knot
     
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    well i have 2 racket that is using 2 knot and one racket using 4 knot

    I like the 4 knot one better because it's new and it's the CAB30M !!!

    But the 2knot racket seem to be running strong after 1 whole year .... i don't get to play much badminton last year and it's stil seem have decent tention in them .
     
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    Recommended string patterns for all Yonex racquets are all 4 knots method

    Yes, these is a 3 knots method. It is just take too much time to tide the end main and starting cross on the same knot and end result is same as the 4 knot method. Also, 2 string through 1 hole is enough, 3 string will be too tight. Don't ask me to show you.
     
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    well that's cool to know there is a 3 knot stringing method ... all my racket is yonex for now . 2 are 2knot which seem to be ok but 4 knot for now seem to be great maybe it;s just new and with better string .
     
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    :crying:I have to disagree with you...MP allows the strings to move over a more rounded surface...not to hold the string in place better and you can check the factory for confirmation of this...I have not seen strung rackets in the yonex catalog using 4 knot stringing...but maybe they do...Muscle Power frame is not a type of grommet, it is the raised area between the grommets that make it MP frame...without this raised area the string has to move over a more square rim of the grommet and therefore it does not move as freely as it does over the rounded MP frame....As for 3rd rate 2 knot stringing....this I dont know about for certain...but having used both I see no difference...Stringing is easier using 2 knot method so maybe that is why we use it here??? On average we string 15 rackets a day so it makes a difference in how long it takes to string one racket...Has anyone done any testing to find the real difference (if any) between 2 and 4 knot???:rolleyes:
     
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    I still dont understand this...does it use
    1 piece of string or 2 ???? I would love to see a photo of this if anyone has one please....:)
     
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    If this is all about which method holds tension best then it would be the 4 knot as the piece of string being held would be shorter so it would have less stretch...
     
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    Those are 2 style of stringing i have ...
     

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    He just said 1 of the knot from main and 1 knot from cross will be "overlap" each other. Therefore, you end up with 1 larger knot, instead of 2 knots (at 2 different gromments). The major disadvantage for doing so, is you need to share the gromment with 3 strings, instead of 2. ;)
     

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