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A good badminton photo

Discussion in 'Badminton Photography' started by kwun, Nov 14, 2003.

  1. Cheung

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    Slightly different is this shot.

    Notice the extra attachments in the middle of the player...:)
     

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    Here's one more.

    This one is not the action shot but more about the badminton deity in the background..

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    This one deliberately includes the shadow

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    the cropped version is much better. in fact, a publishable quality with that crop, the facial expression of the player, and the shuttlecock. the uncropped version includes too much extraneous surround that adds little to the photo.
     
  4. Cheung

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    I agree about the busy background. It's something we see a lot in badminton. One way of excluding it is to take a high angle. But then we lose a feel of depth in the photo - is that due to the telephoto effect?
     
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    Yep nice cropping, looks much more intense that way :). Guess this one is somewhat similar but don't think I had to crop (could still use some cropping on the sides though)

    edit: I see now it's 4:3 already, guess I must've done some cropping already ...

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    Too bad this one is spoilt by the "extraneous surround" :D. I guess the crop area for this one would be just the male with up to the bust of the lady in frame ...
     

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    I have been looking this thread through.

    As I see it a lot of you are missing the white balance setting.
    It is very important.
    In my opinion you also have to have the shuttlecock in every action picture.

    My equipment for badmintonphotos is:
    2 Canon MarkIV
    Canon 70-200mm f2.8L
    Canon 24-70mm f2.8L
    Canon 300mm f.2.8L

    Settings: Iso between 1600 and 12.800
    Aperture: f2.8
    Shutter: at least 1/500
    White Balance: Take a shot of any white and import this to the camera.
    Fps: Between 6 and 10 fps
    Autofocus: on

    On www.fjerbolden.dk you can see 2000 badminton photos from this season.

    Best Regards
    Johansen
    www.badminton-nyt.dk
    www.fjerbolden.dk
     
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    Hej Johansen, velkom tilbage :). Come a long way since your Pentax ;). Actually I have visited fjerbolden quite a few times already from badminton-nyt ... Hadn't really noticed untill now but you hardly have any pics of people smashing, most "action" shots are netshots. Of course this makes it much easier to have the shuttle in the frame.
    As for my shots you are right about white balance. I had and have little to no experience with DSLR and hoped to work around by shooting RAW. Not ideal but one step at a time :D. Next time that will be one of the extra steps to go ...

    ps. I'm sure kwun & co know how to set white balance
     
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    Hi Demolidor
    I am impressed that you remember way back to my pentax days. It is a while ago.
    And I must say that i totally agree that Kwun is a excellent shooter.
    I didn't mention raw files. That was a mistake. You have to take pictures in Raw, it is essential, so that you can correct any mistakes.
    I don't think smash shots is the key to good pictures.
    But a good variety of shots from all angles is the way.
    I personally like these kind of shots. All taken with 300mm f2.8.

    c.jpg .
    Iso 3200, f2.8, 1/500, 300mm
    b.jpg
    Iso 1600, f2.8, 1/400, 300mm
    a.jpg
    Iso 1600, f3.2,, 1/320, 300mm
     
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    Thanks

    rgs
    Johansen
     
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    Haha, nice selection. Il buono, il brutto, il cattivo I don't feel having the shuttle in frame here has much too add does it? Maybe if practically frozen(?). And of course you are right a smash shot is not necessary for a good pic but for an action shot next to dives is there anything more spectacular?
     
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    Johansen, do you find the 24-70 useful? I find it is rather slow focussing. What's your impression? Do you use it much?
     
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    Thank you demolidor for your nice words.


    Yes, I still think it has. I believe that I will have deleted the photos if the shuttle was not there.

    Shure it is spectacular, but the comercial interest of smash shots are very little. There are almost no demands on smash shots.

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    Hi Cheung.
    You are right. It is a little slow in focussing. But if I am close to the court I use it. Far the most photos I take is with my 70-200 F2.8 II.
    What do you use close to court?

    This kind of shots I use it for:
    d.jpg
    iso 3200, f2.8, 1/320, MarkIV with 24-70 f2.8

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    [​IMG]

    Too high ISO? Cellphone pics look better these days ...

    Model: NIKON D7000
    ISO: 5000
    Exposure: 1/500 sec
    Aperture: 1.8
    Focal Length: 50mm
    Flash Used: No
    Latitude: n/a
    Longitude: n/a


    Or shitty post-processing, too much compression: 1024×732 pixels – 86KB?

    Another one (same settings):

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    Let's keep it on the post-processing :D

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    Model: NIKON D7000
    ISO: 1000
    Exposure: 1/30 sec
    Aperture: 2.8
    Focal Length: 50mm
    Flash Used: No
    Latitude: n/a
    Longitude: n/a
     
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    demolidor,
    my only tip in doing post processing is try not to resize the original picture (if possible, don't do it at all, unless one doesn't really care abt the quality of the final photo), esp. if it was taken in RAW format. Just crop & focus on the area you want to keep/show.
     
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    Obviously this is not my work ;):D I was just amazed a D7000 could produce this cellphone quality :eek: since that might be the camera I'm going for ...
     
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    cellphone quality? as in what characteristic(s)? color? blurryness? exposure?..
     
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    Compression artificating with a touch of softness filter to make it presentable? Colours and exposure don't look. Look like they had the cellphone postprocessing treatment and/or taken with a 50 cent lens...
    You can just go the website on the pics and choose the gallery of the currently held English National Championships

    Having a hard time choosing the worst of the bunch ;) Should probably move to the D7000 thread by now :D.

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    Interestingly it's from the same person/persons as posted before in the AE2010 picture thread only then it was a D80 and look better at roughly the same dimension and filesize.
     
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