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All England Open should be downgraded to SS immediately

Discussion in 'German / All England / Swiss Open 2014' started by cxytdn, Dec 23, 2013.

  1. cxytdn

    cxytdn Regular Member

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    Korea Open should be upgraded to SSP immediately.

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    cxytdn Regular Member

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    BWF: The five top-tier World Superseries Premier tournaments – China (Guangzhou), Denmark, England, Malaysia and Indonesia – promise to be more lucrative, each with minimum prize money of US$500,000 (2014; 2015); US$550,000 (2016); and US$600,000 (2017).
     
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    Weird, if you look at the official BWF OSIM site, the price money at All England 2014 is set at 500 000 USD.
     
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    with no prize money at all where should the Olympics degraded to?
     
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    While SS or SSP is typically a matter of prize money, AE is a conditionality given its prestige as the oldest badminton tourney.
     
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    agreed. you just cant award them to the highest bidder, can you?
    otherwise we might have the SSF awarded to some places in the middle east thinking the badminton is just another show jumping event!
     
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    The oldest badminton tourney doesn't mean SSP.
     
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    for those didn't quite get it, badminton is place in England that holds the world famous horse trials yearly.

    http://www.badminton-horse.co.uk/
     
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    Actually, it does. And it is the most prestigious of them all.
     
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    I don't quite agree with this. If so, then the All England should have had SSP status from the inception of the SS tour (which is hasn't been). Unless there is something written in the conditions that we don't know about.

    I agree world championships and Olympics are considered differently but age of tournament is a weak argument. For it's prestige, yes, I agree All England is a more desirable tournament but SSP status and allowing it to offer less prize money...?
     
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    http://bwfbadminton.org/file.aspx?id=464370&dl=1

    Definition 2.3 gives the definition of SSP.

    But that should be a minimum criteria. Let's say 7 tournaments offer more than $500,000 , then other factors come into consideration in selecting the 5 SSP out of that 7.

    In those definitions, All England is not mentioned as an exception.
     
  13. cxytdn

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    In 2014,

    INA SSP 750K
    AUS SS 750K
    CHN SSP 700K
    DEN SSP 600K
    KOR SS 600K
    MAS SSP 500K
     
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    I don't have idea why certain people are against to one of the prestigious tournament .

    England is the birth place of this wonderful sport. It has a history for more than 100 years of badminton cycle which no other tournament has. Nothing unusual in giving importance to this wonderful tournament though it offers less money than any other 'child' SSP tournaments. This is the mother of all the SSP tournaments which someone can't get rid off(degraded) just like that . Period
     
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    However, SS was introduced (2006, started 2007) before SSP (2011) was and All England became a SSP straight away when it was introduced.

    It is indeed curious that AE is still considered SSP when it doesn't even meet the criteria anymore.
     
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    I think we should be calling for more prize money for the tournament. Very few people in England apart from badminton fans know what the All England is. I am sure they could create a advertising campaign to generate more interest and raise public awareness which attract tv coverage and possibly more noney from tv rights which would go towards prize money.

    I wish BWF and badminton england would be a bit more proactive about this as it seems a shame interest in the tournament is falling and it is risking losing its prestigous status.
     
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    Can't agree more. All England is definitely not an exception given it's prize money is $500,000 in 2014.
    Check this out http://www.allenglandbadminton.com/well-make-the-all-england-the-premier-event/

    Thus, either the All England website or the prospectus must be erroneous. I guess the website is the correct one. BWF, I believe, is not that ignorant to transgress its own rule.
     
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    Indonesia is poorer than Singapore in term of financial status. But i am shock they offer the most $750K prize money .. ?
     
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    dude, the AE is the most prestigious badminton open right now. If it doesn't deserve the SSP status, then no tournament does.

    I agree it would be bad if the organizers don't actually respect the BWF's rules as regards Prize Money, but still US$400k is a lot of money.
     
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    The reason for AE still being SSP would probably be cause it's the oldest tournament, however, they could just state that in the criteria that AE is an exception. The criteria for "deserving" SSP status is clearly there so I'm not seeing why other countries deserve the status less than AE.
     

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