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Apacs Z Series or Z Ziggler - Z Force II Clone

Discussion in 'Racket Recommendation / Comparison' started by Dave1011, Jul 9, 2014.

  1. sohnaych

    sohnaych Regular Member

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    i have the z series and foray 300.. i love both of these rackets... they both give me amazing speed and accurate shots.. i used to play with yonex rackets about 2-3 years ago and they break very fast.. however apacs rackets that i have from last 2 years are still going good..

    im going to try z ziggler, z vanguard 2, and n force from apacs.. lets see how they turn out.
     
  2. Charlie-SWUK

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    How were you breaking them..?
     
  3. sohnaych

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    i used to get stringing done from a place in Toronto, Markham and it's official Yonex reseller, so I don' know if they didn't use to do proper balance of tension that would break the racket or it yonex rackets are week. I have some friends who's yonex racket break more often as well. so i think apacs is more durable.
     
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    Do you've Fleet Z Force 2 Pink or Green?

    I've been thinking of trying a fleet racket as I love apacs and fleet is a sister company of apacs.
     
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    They broke the racket by stringing it? I can't say this is something I've heard of unless the frame is already cracked or seriously damaged.

    Someone that strings rackets would be able to give a better opinion, but it sounds like you had a bad stringer.
     
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    Yes, I clearly agree I had a bad stringer. It was a lady (no disrespect) but she wasn't a racket expert, however this is official Yonex shop or at least re-seller in Markham, Toronto, Canada.

    I changed to a different guy who's a coach and also strings. Now it's more durable and hasn't broken any racket in last 2 years. I did break 1 Yonex racket even after that but I've been playing for 2 years with Apacs rackets which I believe are more durable.
     
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    Just wanted to post on this. Looks like these two rackets are pretty different. I actually ordered a Z-Ziggler and SportsHorizon sent me a Z-Series instead, once they figured it out they sent me a Ziggler and let me keep the Z-Series.

    The Ziggler seems to have a smaller head shape similar to original Zforce

    zz1.jpg zz2.jpg
     
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    Finally got to play with both these rackets yesterday.

    The Apacs Z-Series has a standard iso head with a extra slim shaft while the Ziggler is more of a direct clone of the ZF2 with a ultra slim shaft.

    I found my Z-series to be a tad more head heavy then the Ziggler but both played very easy. The Ziggler did have an extra pop to it when you get the catapult effect going on smashes.

    Both were strung Zymax 65 24x26.

    Very good for the price. Now I'm waiting for my AVP to come in.
     
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    What is AVP?
     
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    Apacs Virtuoso Performance
     
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    I tried it and returned it. It's different build than these two rackets. Smaller frame and a bit longer shaft which is supposed to give you more power. I couldn't adjust to it but sure, try it.
     
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    The AVP is a higher quality racket but does take some getting used to. If you spend the time getting used to the AVP it's very good. The z series and z Ziggler are very good value for money though.
     
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    I am using Z-ziggler strung with Bg66
    Also a lethal8 strung with vs890
    Both are very explosive.
    I also have a voltric force with ns660.
    Ziggler has medium flex and a head heavy balance.
    Compared it directly with ashaway phantom x speed, it is more quicker.
     
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    i have apacs n force iii, which is a newer version of z-ziggler, which is actually imo the same thing. i tied it at 28lbs with bg80. lobs were easy if you hit it perfectly in the sweetspot, any off centre shots and i find it near the middle of the court ready for opponents to attack. they is a slight drag when going for those sharp slice drops and it feels a little hollow compared to high end rackets which has a solid feel to them. defence was my forte until i changed to this racket, somehow im just so much slower and even when i got the smash, it doesnt push up as high as i want to even when i apply more force to it, same goes no net shots, its always shot and ideal for opponent to smash. I went and pick up a Voltric 70, god was there a big diff
     
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    Is it possible to use an infused grommet ( similar to the e-tunes or the z ziggler) on any racket? Can this special type of grommet be bought separately and used for any compatible racket?
     
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    Try force 80 or zig80 and some whole series Blizzard.
     

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