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Axiata cup 2014

Discussion in '2014 Tournaments' started by Akiel, Nov 27, 2014.

  1. etudiant

    etudiant Regular Member

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    Ina was so unlucky only separated two points to win the trophy....!!!!

    So sad....
     
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    How much Prize money for winners and runners?

    Any idea about the money given to players for the participation?.
     
  3. Cheung

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    Could be something about this member associations not releasing their players.
     
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    it was so close. Too bad with the singles matches creating such a gap the doubles pairs could not overcome. But it did make the XD thrilling especially the last point to get Thailand to 10 seemed forever!
     
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    Not a bad payday for the winners - to share $400K USD. The axiatacup.com site shows 11 players on the Thai team, not a bad payout for a few weeks work. So really the Thai team individuals get way more per player, the Indonesian team shows 22 players on their list, and they will have to split up the $200KUSD.

    Malaysia with only 11 on the team splits 150K, so each Malay player will wind up getting more individually coming in 3rd than the Indonesians coming in 2nd.
     
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    Yup, it's painful losing, total point 140 v 138 :(
    Last crucial match for both team, Riky/Richi wasted their big leading in first game and opened chance for Thai team to win. Congrats to Thailand team!

    Winner : Thailand (US$400,000)
    Runner-up : Indonesia (US$200,000)
    3rd position : Asia All-Stars (US$150,000)
    4th position : Malaysia (US$100,000)
     
  7. Loh

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    I don't know how the All-Stars are selected.

    Imagine if they really get the best players from Europe and Asia it will be tough for the other participants, especially those countries that have no star players but players who are majority lower ranked internationally.

    And if China should participate in this lucrative tournment, it will be much more difficult for others to win the top prize. Now why are other more powerful countries like JPN and KOR not participating? Is it because they cannot do so for their own reasons or they have not been invited?
     
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    CBA don't sent player play leauge out side china
    JPN player have to play national championship and KOR have korean leauge in the same time of Axiata cup too.
     
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    Thanks.

    I wish the AC next year will not clash with the other tournaments.

    It is noteworthy that the AC's top prize has been shared by three different teams since its inception. Even THA has succeeded this year when on paper, they are considered lower ranked than INA and MAS. Of course MAS is without the service of LCW and there were better players that may be injured and cannot participate.

    If CBA still retains its policy of not allowing its players to take part in foreign leagues, the AC playing field will be more even, unless top players from Europe and other Asian countries are allowed to participate in future.

    If so, AC organizers must impose certain restrictions to level up the competition. The prize money is too lucrative to ignore.

    Maybe a points system to even out the player's WR ranking should be considered as it is done in amateur golf based on the handicap system.
     
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    I believe Bao ChunLai and Zhen Bo joined the Asia All Stars last year. But it does seem that Axiata Cup was created to fill a void in tournament calendar in the SE Asia region during this lull in early Dec, while KOR, CHN, JPN have their own national tournaments.
     
  11. Loh

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    So CBA do allow some of their players to compete in the AC on a selective basis.

    This year's badminton calendar seems to be exceptionally active and many world sporting events were also held like the Glasgow Commonwealth Games, Thomas Cup and Uber Cup and the Asian Games.
    As such, AC may find it difficult to accommodate everybody to achieve an ideal situation.

    AC has to be different, otherwise it will be another team event that resembles the Sudirman Cup. But it has to make the competition more fair and even to give participating teams a chance to challenge for the top prizes.

    The question is how long more will the AC continue with its lucrative tournament and will there be another corporation to replace it, perhaps with a better offer?
     
  12. Qidong

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    But BCL has retired and ZB was kicked out of the national team. I think CBA does not let active players play.
     
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    Yeah, if Asia All-Stars consist of top players from CHN, KOR, JPN, it will be very hard for SEA team to win the cup.
     
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    really, I don't understand how it works, they still left with WD, which is important since we cannot decide the game with 4 games only
    this is the first time I saw a tournament with point system (and yes, it is very bitter since Indonesia only lost by 2 stupid points!)
     
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    It was a hard loss, and difficult since in terms of matches won were 2-2 tie. Unfortunately when using all points in all games to calculate the winner, it is extremely important for players not just trying to win, but if losing to not give any points away easily, so forcing players to keep trying no matter what.

    Too bad Tommy with only 13 points in his second game, and Ramma with 9 and 12 really put Indonesian in bad position going into the doubles matches. It was good that HS/MK were able to gain back some lost points with their second game, but unfortunately the gap was still too large for RW/RPD to fully overcome. Although the final spread was only 2 points, RW/RPD had to make up almost over 12 points over their match. I was very impressed as they played very well in spite of overall loss.
     
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    This year again the Axiata Cup has proven its formula is a winning one. Exciting, good organisation, a chance to see teams made up of different countries... I wish there would be two or three similar events during the year.
     
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    Definitely created excitement. Also, where else could you see Taiwan, Hong Kong and Indian players cheering each other on! And so much nail-biting as you can see how much both the 1/2 and 3/4 XD matches created.

    Up to last few points in both finals it got so tense as the commentators equated each point to how much money each side stood to win/lose on the outcome! Although the difference between 3/4 in prize money is only $50k ($150k vs $100k), where the difference in 1/2 was $200k, the 3/4 battle was equally as fierce!
     
  18. Akiel

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    Actually there are China players play in outside Chna Badminton League

    example:Kopiko Purple League

    Zhao Yunlei
    Wang Meng Yan
    Chen Jiao
     
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    There is only 1 problem. Look at the final match between Thailand and Indonesian XD. The Thai pair needed to win 9 pts in the 2nd game to win the Championship. After they got 9 pt, they just gave up the game. I wonder why there is no WD so the winning team need to win 3 out of 5 matches.
     
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    Yes the format is initially a bit confusing, since almost all tournaments we are so used to seeing WD and best 3 of 5 matches. As to why the eliminated WD, who knows?
     

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