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Can a newly strung racket be untied and restrung again with the same string?

Discussion in 'Badminton Stringing Techniques & Tools' started by Phydhel, Dec 2, 2009.

  1. Phydhel

    Phydhel Regular Member

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    I just got my racket strung by this "pro" who thought he knew better. He suggested that i go for lower tension (without even watching me play) and i said ok since he he looks and talks like a pro. So he gets it done and my once ultimate weapon feels like rubberband now.

    My question is, is it possible for one to untie and restring my racket using the same string? or do i have to get a brand new string? that would be a real waste.
     
  2. Kiloo

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    yes and no:cool:. If U r a pro, u wudnt want a 'used' string back onto yr racket. Once weaved and threaded into the grommets etc the string has been 'used' in a sense. But U can still do it.

    Then there is the case of length. If it is a 2 piece job even more so. Once U reach the end of the job U will not hv enough string to reach onto the tension head to pull and tie the knot. Unless again u stop short and add another piece ending with a racket with prob 8 knots:crying:.

    Think well, and I totally agree with u on the wasted string.:D
     
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    The simple is NO! it cannot be done
     
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    Why bother? 1) String cost is not that much. 2) You are going to pay for the labor anyway.
    In theory, (and this is only in theory) you can tighten the string tension without undoing the entire string bed. However, if some one ask me to do that, I will charge $25 labor because I estimate it will take me 1.5 hr to do a job like that. So, I will charge a lot more for the labor alone. Is it really worth it to do so? NO! Do you want to be the first racquet for me to test my theory? I don't think so...
     
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    it depends on alot of things. :D
     
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    I know for sure that any bG-string works.
     
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    MAS labor is cheaper than US prices, those bG strings can come off very easily and do get restrung, frequently:p
     
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    Man, you are good. I know you have master the 1 pull technique.:D
     
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    I believe the question was restrung with the same string. Sorry NO IT CANNOT be done.
     
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    Hi Alan,
    In some case, yes. but not with exactly the same pattern. In case of the racquet is with AT800 or newer string pattern. Some stringer will use 1 piece with 22x22 (22 mains x 22 crosses) pattern. If you are good enough to only cut off the 2 tie off knot. You can take the entire string and strung the same racquet at 22x21 pattern and the racquet will be usable. Same idea for regular pattern.
    I do not recommend this method and this is just for demo to prove a point.
     
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    i just came in and have a look.
    you are charging USD25 for labour? that is almost RM90.
    which is i can restring whatever string that i want in MAS. that is almost include bG string as you mentioned. :D

    to Phydhel,
    Malaysia is one of the best place for badminton. can say, most of badminton items are cheap. much cheaper in other countries. common BG-80 is price lower than USD12 which is cheaper than USA's stringing labour charge only. we can have it string + labour. i have no idea why cant just do a restring job with new string? go to other "pro" shop if you feel this "pro" no good.
     
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    I know where you are coming from but if you consider the question to be
    RESTRUNG= your same 22x22 pattern COMPLETE
    Technicaly it can be restrung, MISSING 1 or 2 CROSSES, which really is not COMPLETELY RESTRUNG. I do agree with where you are coming from.
     
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    Thanks everyone for the input. I'm using my secondary weapon for now. I'll use the 'rubberband' occasionally until it breaks haha. that will take some time though
     
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    Sorry YES IT CAN be done

    i didn't debate further because only pics can prove my point since i know i have done it many times before.

    here is one i just finish few minutes ago.
    I was ask to string 2 J.C. Tag rackets, diamond X2(blue color) and diamond X3(lime color). I re-tensioned the X2 keeping the same old string

    the before case:

    i was 25% into de-tensioning when i remember about this post, so i took a snap shot of it. It's kinda blurry as i was using iso50 on my cheapo P&S camera. Note the knot on top and bottom. The user had felt pen (black) a funny face on the string bed. After de-tension, that funny face pattern turn to bunch of black markings on the string.
     

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    the after case:

    i selected iso200 this time and used more lighting:D The tension was increased by 3.5 lbs. Note that one old knot is still bounded to the string. Note the curl on the bottom string end? that was the old knot. The black felt pen markings are even more fainted afterward as string rotates during re-tensioning.
     

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    Is there a knot at 6bottom and 5 top? the shared hole at the top is that an end string going through the shared hole? 2nd pic is really clear, hard to follow 1st pic. did you cut the string at the top and leave the knot? What was the 2nd tension? Thanks!! No hating just curious. Thanks again.
     
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    I have also done it for one guy whom I was ABSOLUTELY certain would NOT pay me for the job. (And he did not, difficult to explain here). So I used his same string. BUT Id say it is not a very professional job. Kinks can show up if the strings are well used, I guess.
     
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    Cooler, can you explain all the steps you took to do this?
    How did you take the tensioned strings off? Please give us a step by step sequence involved.
     
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    cooler, didn't know you are a stringer and what machine you are using?

    in that picture, before and after tensioning, the original tension must be some 5 lbs and you strung it to 12 lbs?
     
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    my first post in bf was about stringing if u had read all my 20000+ postings:p
    I said 3.5lbs higher than previous tension. 12-7 is not 3.5:p
     
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