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Discussion in 'China Professional Players' started by Justin L, Aug 31, 2013.

  1. Justin L

    Justin L Regular Member

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    CHN MS needs new blood, can't afford to depend on the aging Lin Dan, obviously, and Chen Long, age 28, while Shi Yuqi at 21 years old is still a work-in-progress.

    Qiao Bin, Huang Yuxiang, Tian Houwei, are not up to it. The younger Zhao Junpeng, born 2nd Feb 1996, age 21, not impressive.

    I wonder if some of those who showed promise at the CNG,such as Lu Guangzu, Xu Yiming, Wu Xin ( all about 20/21 years old) and the 19-year-old Sun Feixiang, WJC, can emerge as among the top world class players if given the requisite international exposure by CBA.

    For the time being, let's see if Shi Yuqi can continue to grow from strength to strength as he matures and gains much experience in the next two years. As we know, Lin Dan at his age was already a world-beater with a number of prestigious titles under his belt and besting practically all the top players more often than not.

    Admittedly, Lin Dan's a hard act to follow for anybody. But the way SYQ lost to the 35-year-old LCW at the JPN Open semifinals today was somewhat embarrassing and disappointing, I think it was his third humiliating loss to LCW. I can only console myself that Chen Long also started his career repeatedly humbled by LCW until he learnt to tackle him successfully and then one victory led to another to eventually become the multiple World and Olympic Champion.

    If SYQ can survive such hard knocks and emerge stronger proving he's made of sterner stuff, I think he will go far. Actually, other than LCW and Lin Dan, and Chen Long, I've seen him handle other players quite well. What he lacks at the moment is mostly experience and the only way to gain experience is , well, to be very active in competitions and face all kinds of players and situations, and learn to analyse your games, know your strengths and weaknesses and constantly work on improving yourself in all aspects of the game, including your mentality. Having a good coach certainly helps but adopting the right attitude is even more important.
     
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    The quickest way for the next generation to take over is to have a second and even a third national team that plays in as many competitions as they are allowed.
    In this way the best performers can be easily identified for promotion. Apart from SYQ the rest of the younger players have shown their best which isnt very good. SYQ seems to be in Work in progress mode. He has improved, thats very clear. Lets hope the CBA will "unleash" a new batch of juniors in the near future.
     
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    I just checked the M & Q version reports for the DEN and the French Opens and found out that Zhao Junpeng was originally registered to play but his name has now been removed from both tournaments. A sign that CBA has no confidence in him yet or he is injured.

    For WS, Chen Xiaoxin is registered only for the French Open, not DEN Open. And , a surprise, I saw Qi Xuefei's name as one of the reserves for the French Open. I noticed Qi Xuefei's name when I checked out the Belgian Int'l Challenge to see how Kento Momota was doing there, he won beating Lee Cheuk Yiu , and found that QXF progressed to the WS final beating Mette Poulsen in the SF but conceded a walkover in the final ( no idea why).

    My question is , why Qi Xuefei and not any of the better known under-20-year-old juniors, like Gao Fangjie, Han Yue, Zhang Yiman, Wang Zhiyi, Li Wenmei, and the older 23-year-old Hui Xirui ? I hope to see them featured regularly in the lower tier events at least.
     
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    I just realized the World Junior Mixed Team and the Individual Championships are being held in Oct from 09th to 22nd, maybe that explains why the CHN junior team is not taking part in the DEN, 17th to 22nd, and French, 24th to 29th, Opens, apart from some of them being too lowly ranked to qualify.

    The Dutch Open GPG, 10th to 15th Oct, is also conspicuous for the absence of any CHN participation.
     
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    Zhao Junpeng was also registered in Korea SS & Japan SS then he withdrawn from both tournaments.

    4x time withdrawn should be something happen on him I guess.
     
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    Justin L Regular Member

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    You may be right.
     
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    Its nice to see HBJ's matches in the Japan Open. She has a lot of talent and its a joy to see her play some of those shots. Its deceptive and punishing for her opponents. She has been in WIP mode for a long time but its now paying dividends. If she can get her fitness to a much higher level, her speed and power will improve and she can then worry her opponents if the rallies are long. She will then be a very difficult player to beat.

    SYQ has also advanced from his WIP mode but needs to improve his reading of smashes from the strong attackers like VA, SWH, SK and WTW for example.
    Its very evident that the Chinese players are defence minded but if you look at the top 5 or even 10 MS players ,they all have a strong attack. Lin Dan is one exception in that he has a lethal smash which worries his opponents.
    Thats why Lu Guangzu is an exciting player for China.
     
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    Qi Xuefei will play this week at Czech Open 2017. She's the only CHN representative player.

    From her page shows total play: 29 (all these 29 appearance are in 2017) with 26 Wins, 3 Losses Amazing!

    But then, I found her previous 2 matches in 2009 and 2013. What? Yes, it's true. She played twice as double player XD: Qi Xuefei/Yu Xiaoyu (Adidas China Masters 2013) and WD: Qi Xuefei/Ma Xixi (Li-Ning China Masters Superseries 2009)
    https://www.tournamentsoftware.com/profile/matches.aspx?id=00820343-E647-4C1F-BBA7-9ABEC025DB25

    She was also playing in Austria Badminton League
    1. BundesLiga 2011-2012 for badminton club named ASKÖ Kelag Kärnten
    2. 3. ÖBV-A-RLT 2011-2012 for badminton club named ASKÖ Kelag Kärnten

    Qi Xuefei isn't junior player. She's doing her comeback after that so long breaks since 2013.

    From http://bwfbadminton.com/player/77256/qi-xuefei/ranking-history mentioned that her age : 25 (02/28/1992)

    She want to play at WC in Nanjing? She's rank 56 for WC Qualification Ranking
     
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    Excerpts from Badzine http://www.badzine.net/2017/09/belgian-international-momota-roars-qi-bows/


    The Chinese born is hoping to become a French citizen soon – she has been living in Britanny (west coast of France) for a few years and studies French. She will soon get married to her French boyfriend who plays in her club of Rostronen. “It’s not so easy to play for France. There is a lot of paperwork and I need to pass a French test. But we really hope it will be possible before the end of the year, because now I don’t have any sparring partners to practice, I don’t have badminton place to play in everyday and I don’t have a coach anymore. I really need more to try to play my best level” she told Badzine.
     
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    Now my memory is jolted but vaguely, the name Qi Xuefei. Thanks. If she's hoping to apply for French citizenship, CBA is kind enough to register her for tournaments and not other juniors, so that she can improve her ranking.
     
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    Chen Hong/Wang Lin vs Tan Boon heong /Chin K.M
     
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    The 2 singles players don't seem comfortable with playing doubles. :p
     
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    It's the 2017 All-Stars face-off held in Taipei, Taiwan (good for cross-straits relations).

    The CHN pair comprising two singles players are Chen Hong, 38 years old, and Wang Lin, still only 28; the MAS pair composes of Tan Boon Heong, 30 years old and Chen Jiawen (Chin K M), 22.

    The MAS pair has obvious, significant advantages in age and competitiveness, TBH is a doubles specialist with Setiawan in the international circuit (WR#25 currently) and, with his partner CJW (CKM ), they are both very much in active competition though not with each other, no idea if she is a singles or doubles player (probably the former).

    Clearly the CHN pair is out of shape and out of practice, a mismatch; just for entertainment , nevertheless. Chen Hong seems to have put on quite a bit of weight, and, as we know, both he and Wang Lin, now a Zhejiang coach, have retired for a number of years already. The commentators reminded us that WL retired after sustaining her ACL injury (for the third time) a few years ago.
     
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    I just wanted to post here as I saw their names in the video while surfing the net considering their retirement long long time ago.
    Nice to see Wang Lin on court.

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    World Junior championships. Interesting to see Gao Zhenge playing MS in two matches for China. His game against Lin Chun -Yi was vital and he came out the winner. Lin was the winner of the Sydney International and the LI Ning Australian junior International last month. HIs coaches must have a lot of confidence in him. His game is not the usual defending strategy game that most Chinese players are taught to do. He strikes me as a young Lee Chong Wei, in work in progress. His net play is very impressive and he has a great jumping smash. A good attacking style. Wonder whether he will be playing again or will we see Bai Yupeng in the next match. But he has great potential.
     
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    Han Yue in her match against GM Tunjung of Indonesia didn't have a clue how to handle the speed of the opponent and was always behind in her match. She was so slow and couldn't change her game to assert herself. Surprised her coaches didn't realise that she doesn't like fast attacking players. This weakness of hers will be fully exposed to all her opponents in future. Sadly for her.
     
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    Bai Yupeng showed very good confidence in his ability by withstanding the fast pace set by Gajra Cupu who took the first set. He played steadily and won the next two matches. Well done the coaches for developing the players mental approach to the game.
     
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    I think with this experience, she will likely learn to cope better against fast attacking players. I suspect Chen Long doesn't like them either, and those who try to go fast against him typically don't win. Wang Shixian also doesn't have the same mentality and she's also effective at managing them. However, to do that, such players usually have very good techniques, solid defence as well as a good tactical plan to execute to limit their opponents' advantages and turn it around to favour them instead.

    Both Chen Long and Wang Shixian are 2 good examples at how they do it.
     
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    Bai Yupeng demonstrates overconfidence and plays with the typical straightforward game that is the Chinese style. B.Yupeng has beaten KN in their previous meeting, but he got thrashed here. Chinese players expect their opponents to play straightforward returns but when they are up against a fast and tricky player they have no clue what to do. Han Yue showed the same weakness and with a fast attacking Japanese WS she will have a problem. China's MS coach has a blind spot on a game of speed and power. He doesn't seem to like his charges to have that in their game.
     
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    At last we see a Chinese junior with natural talent in Gao ZZ. What super net play ala the Indonesian players like Taufik. He has a great mental approach to the game. He is very aware of where his opponent is in the court and plays his shots calmly, many times outwitting them and receiving a poor return as a result. If he can improve on the power and angle of his smashes he is going to go far. Looking forward to the individual tournament beginning on the 16th.
     

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