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crosscourt smashes weaker?

Discussion in 'Techniques / Training' started by checkthemc, Nov 28, 2005.

  1. checkthemc

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    Generally speaking, should crosscourt smashes be weaker? I seem to be slicing my smashes in order to land steeper and near midcourt. Smashing from my forhand back corner to the opponents forhand midcout seems difficult to generate power. When I power smash straight it feels like a solid hit but it feels very different when going crosscourt. Is this normal?
     
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    Generally, crosscourt smashes will be alittle weaker compared to straight, since the shuttle have to travel alittle farther. But you are saying it feels different, so it sounds like you are slicing it. Try to get someone watch the next time you are playing :)
     
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    Yes, generally it should be a little bit weaker due to the extra distance as taber mentioned. However if done right you should be able to land the shuttle a lot closer to the net (not talking about slicing) compared to smashing straight due to the trajectory of the cross court smash. This will force your opponent to stretch even further. Higher risk of hiting wide tho if you are too ambitious and not consistent.

    8man
     
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    i think this all decides on which side ur doin the crosscourt. for me, if i hit a smash from forehand side to my opponents forhand side (assuming we're both right handed) it is weaker, but if its from my backhand side to my opponents backhand side, it becomes more powerful. not sure y, i guess its because i dun turn my body when its on my forehand side :p
     
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    Smashes will be weaker if you are not hitting them straight. This is a positional problem. If you are set up to smash straight down a line then you are going to get maximum power. If you set up to smash straight down a line, then attempt to hit cross-court you are not deriving the maximum benefit from your set up as your racket head is not on the same rotational plane as your body. If you want to hit a fast smash cross-court you have to turn and face that part of the court. However, there are not too many situations in badminton when a forehad cross-court smash from the rear court is a good plan.
     
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    "cross court smashes" in doubles is not the best of ideas....
     
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    Sir, why do you say that?
     
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    It is more difficult for your partner to cover when your opponent returns your "cross court smash"...
     
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    Smashing crosscourt in doubles may seem impressive, but it usually poses no problem for your opponents, and their response should cause trouble for you.

    • The smash speed will be slower, and the opponents will have more time to react, because the shuttle travels a longer distance.
    • Conversely, the opponents straight reply to the rearcourt (flat or lifted) will come faster, and you will have more difficulty reaching it.

    Indeed, attacking crosscourt is rarely a good tactic. It looks fancy, but normally exposes you to a straight counter-attack. In doubles, the straight shot is normally better than the crosscourt shot.

    There are, of course, exceptions.
     
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    Thanks for posting that; couldn't have explained that any better....
     
  11. checkthemc

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    I was talking about singles but i guess you guys answered doubles also.:cool::p
     
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    sorry, if it was too much information for you; next time we'll keep that in mind...
     
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    Thanks, just wanted to see if there were any additional variations aside from what I have learned. You can never learn too much. :)
     
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    I was looking for Doubles info. :p :D
     
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    just posted a reply recently in "badminton photography". which is in the chit chat subforum! it's about capturing the best looking action posture. for me, that's crosscourt:)
    anyway, let's go back to the discussion. yes, i agree. it's all about which side u are doing a crosscourt. but my point is just oppsite to yours. i think if u are doing a crosscourt from your forehand side. u can actually hit the bird with more power. coz u have more space to swing your racket. but if u are doing a crosscourt from your backhand side. u have less space to get your racket accerated. in order to compensate the power lost. u gotta use more wrist. but saddly, most of the players' wrist aren't that strong. as a result, the crosscourt would be less powerful.
    i might be wrong. that's only my point of view within my limited knowledge.
     
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    Your comment suggests that your point of contact when you play a smash is too wide. Ideally, the smash should be played above the head/shoulder, not out to the side.

    You have probably developed a preference for this because the mechanics of your swing are not quite right. Lead with the elbow and prevent your arm from swinging out too much to the side.

    Fundamentally, a crosscourt should be slower. It's simple physics!
     
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    Ok, crosscourt smashes are weaker than straight down the line smashes. But, of the two cross court smashes (from your forehand and backhand corners), is one weaker than the other (relatively speaking) or both about the same? I am asking this question in regard to the pronation of the arm to generate power, whether one can generate more power going cross court from the backhand corner, which is the natural direction of the pronation. Thanks.
     
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    For a smash, I think you must change the angle of your arm swing so that it is in line with the direction you are hitting.

    Otherwise you are slicing the smash, which will lose power. Of course, slicing is more deceptive.

    But for the basic stroke, I don't see much difference. If your arm swing is in line with the intended direction, then it will be the same power.
     
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    My cross court smash, left to right, is a bread and butter winner for me in singles and is as hard as my down the line smash.

    In doubles I have to make sure the angle is pretty steep or it does get me in trouble. If I go to high to the body with it, my opponent can block the shuttle back down the line and I'm pretty much dead in the water.

    However I find that going right to left with a cross court smash ( I'm right handed, assuming I'm playing right handers) in doubles is very effective as most player tend to return that smash towards the center of the court where my partner is likely to be standing.

    I find it very effective with this type of smash if I go to the body - it works to handcuff my opponent into a weak return. I have to be wary if there is lefty on the other side of the net though as this now goes into their back hand and they can easily drive it down the line.

    I use far more cross court smashes in singles.
     
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    One thing I should clarify:

    Crosscourt smashes can be hit just as powerfully as straight smashes. But by the time they reach the opponent, the crosscourt smashes will be slower.

    It's simple geometry: the diagonal ine is longer, so the smash slows down more (due to air resistance).

    Also, because the line is longer and the smash slows down, the opponents have more time to react.

    Of course, there are many situations when crosscourt smashes are useful. Just keep in mind that they will never be as fast as a straight smash (in terms of speed of shuttle as it approaches the opponent, and reaction time available to the opponent).
     

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