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Goodbye Crank and Hello Constant Pull (Wise 2086 aka Tennis Head)

Discussion in 'Badminton Stringing Techniques & Tools' started by DinkAlot, Mar 3, 2008.

  1. CovinaStringer

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    Watson? Do you mean Watdon?

    Just to clairfy my suggestion was to drill the Gamma adapter and use the track holes as a guide. The second option was to drill the tension rail, which would be a bit harder, because the tension rail is made from steel.

    I think you have 30 days to return the Gamma adapter to TW. Let us know on your progress, I'm curious of the outcome.
     
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    #242 Alexccs, Feb 17, 2011
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    I think this is the same as the W&D Dual Clamp:
    [​IMG]
    Supposedly a Badminton, Squash and Tennis clamp.
     
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    Upss..sorry, yes it's Watdon. Yes, I think drilling the adapter is much better. Most probably I will drill the main part (bigger section) because using the smaller part will raise the WISE above the racket level. But I still hope the adapter from Watdon can do the trick. Thanks for the info TW 30 days return policy.
     
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    I believe you machine shall be ended up like this :
    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=3752386&postcount=223
    and you will not lose the 360 degree rotation.

    Original Gamma function is supposed to like this :
    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=2356321&postcount=1

    this is because position of the racket frame mounting is high.
    so it still needs the original adapter. the one you would like to buy from TW is the silver color one on that picture (old version).

    but you insist to use the Gamma, then you should make a modification into either tension-bar or the Gamma adapter (as per Master CovinaStringer suggestion).

    another suggestion is to cut the small part (upper and bottom, it is as like "C" and make like "L") of the original adapter, so you can put your tension-bar freely, then make a hole into both tension-bar and original adapter.
     
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    I'm familiar with LittlElvis' setup. His setup has since changed, from the post three years ago. That setup is a bit extreme, and would need longer string ends to reach the gripper head. I have a similar setup, but I don't use the Gamma adapter. IMHO, the Gamma adapter should be 1.5" higher from the stock C bracket.

    What is your hangup with modifying the C bracket?

    My best suggestion would be using longer screws (bolts) for the toothed rail. Long enough to go through the Gamma bracket and be held on with nuts. The only drilling would be to the Gamma adapter bracket. At least the only modification would be to the Gamma adapter which is $20. Everything else could be returned to stock if needed. The hard part of this whole modification is finding the right height and marking the holes for drilling. Though I would suggest using a drill press to make the holes.
     
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    actually it is the same, .... the reason it can not be put due to the C-bracket is not wide enough, so, just cut the upper (5mm) and bottom part (10mm). the bracket still C-bracket, and can put into any thickness of tension-bar.
    and to make secure, just drill on C-bracket and using long bolt.
    let me try to make a picture of it ....

    [​IMG]
     
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    Just curious, are all the fix clamps from different maunufacturers inter-changeable ?
     
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    It depends on the manufacturer. Most string clamps are inter-changeable. As for the base clamps they usually come with rails that match. If you know how the parts work, you can figure out what to modify to make it work. Like Panda's base clamps.
     
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    Good to know, thanks
     
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    Just a quick update. I've solved my bracket problem by getting a new-modified bracket from Watdon in UK. I attached a picture of it. Now I am having another problem with the machine itself. I set my tension (e.g. 23 lbs) but when it pull the string it stop at 7.0 lbs with one beep sound (pictures attached). I press the reset button to no avail. Did I miss anything? any special set up? thanks in advance for any advice you may share.
     

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    You string is slipping through the gripper or it's got too much slack. There is a gripper adjustment above the red tigger button. See picture below:
    [​IMG]
    I want to say it's 3mm, but don't quote me on that. It's tough to get an allen wrench in because the stop gets in the way. The best way is to use a ball headed allen wrench.
     
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    Thank you for your valuable advice. It's solved again..ok I am ready to dive in now.
     
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    When it slips like that, examine the string for damage.

    Good Luck!
     
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    Chudek Side Supports (CSS)

    Detailed Review: Chudek Side Supports (CSS)

    Thanks to Michal Chudek for making these supports for Panda. :)

    Conclusion: The Chudek Side Supports (CSS) (as Panda calls them) are first-rate.

    MarkA first receive his CSSs and told Panda, for the money, there is no better support. Mark had absolutely no complaints and needed no additional modifications. This was extremely impressive to Panda considering Mark and Panda have been discussing creating a custom side support specifically for badminton for close to 2 years and each time, some issues arose. Because of Mark's comments, Panda purchased two sets.

    The CSSs are very strong, dense, precise and well made. This is especially true when you consider they are made by hand. After stringing over 100 rackets with the CSSs...they are so good Panda sold his SPT Badminton Mounts. :p

    Like Mark said, there's nothing to complain about. The only modification Panda did was remove all but one layer of the original yellow heat shrink tubing and added the Watts PVC tubing as you see in the images. With this mod, the CSSs are truly first-rate. Stringing rackets at 30-35lbs. is very simple as the racket doesn't slip, slide, jiggle or wiggle.

    There are no problems with clearance on any of the grommet holes, the height of the supports is ideal. Really, no problems this Panda can think of.

    The only other modification that Panda may do is replace the wing nuts with hexagon ones.

    That's it. If you need some badminton specific side supports or want to improve your stringing, Panda extremely, highly recommends you purchase a set of CSSs. You cannot go wrong.

    Panda will be piecing together a new stringing machine for the new club that's opening in late April 2011 in Pomona, CA (aka SGVBC II) with 20 courts and that machine will be using the CSSs.

    Onto the images:
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    Reference: http://www.badmintoncentral.com/for...achine-Parts?p=1553250&viewfull=1#post1553250
     
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    What are the mounts made of?

    Did the springs on the string clamps come with the clamp?

    I think they make a PVC end cap.
     
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    Mounts = iron or steel

    Springs = good eye, no the springs were purchase separately

    PVC End Cap = for what? Please clarify, thanks.
     
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    Mounts = They look home made.

    Springs = I've been looking for those springs, but can never find a source.

    End Cap = I see those PVC end caps all the time. They are usually on the end of steel round bars to keep them from damaging things. There used to be a long tube (2-3") with a closed end we used to slide over the brake lever on BMX bikes. A quick search found me this site: http://www.stockcap.com/pvc-caps.html
     
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    nice review Dink ....
    will you order similar support or with improvement ?
    what would be your new machine ?
     

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