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Has LCW won any 1st tier tournaments?

Discussion in 'Malaysia Professional Players' started by Topspin, Jun 24, 2010.

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  1. Topspin

    Topspin Regular Member

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    I'm new here...but I want to ask, have LCW ever won a 1st tier tournament yet in his career?
     
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    what kind of 1st teir tournament?
    olympic?
    world championship?
    all england?

    if we consider the player who still yet to retired
    only taufik and lin dan won olympic gold
    only lin dan and taufk won world championship
    only peter gade,chen jin,lin dan and lee chong wei won all england
     
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    Hello fellow badmintoncentral-ers, I'm new here so please excuse my noobiness :cool:.

    My question is: has LCW won any 1st tier tournaments up to date?

    I'm asking this because I was debating with a friend whether LCW has won any 1st tiers or not, and my friend brought up the fact that LCW won the 2010 All England. However, is All England even considered a "first tier" tournament? I know that the Olympics and WC is considered 1st tier for sure...but what about All England?
     
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    I see, but I'm confused about if "All England" is considered a 1st tier tournament or not? Because I always thought All-England is considered to be a Super Series....its just that AE is the most prestigious SS of all? Are my wrong? O_O
     
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    yes until 2010 as in 2011 their will be 5 premier super series^^
    hope that help u
     
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    Yes...but I thought that the 5 "premier" SS are just the most prestigious out of all the SS, even though SS in general is considered to be "second tier" tournys?

    Wikipedia:

    "The BWF Super Series is a badminton tournament introduced by Badminton World Federation (BWF) in order to improve the quality of the sport. The second-tiered badminton tournament is played in twelve countries..."

    "The Thomas, Uber, and Sudirman Cups, the Olympics, and the BWF World (and World Junior Championships), are all categorized as level one tournaments."

    :confused::confused::confused:
     
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    we consider as major in badminton central(wc,og,ae,tc,uc,sc)
    not consider by tier :)
     
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    How about Asian game?

    Consider Major? Only TH have won that IIRC.
     
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    wait until lin dan won it
    then asian game will be considered
    because eventhough lindan said in press interview that taufik is still greater than himself by holding 2 asian games gold,his fans doesnt admit that;)
     
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    should not be considered a major tournament because its not major

    only asian playing

    thats my opinion, of course!
     
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    I understand that AE is considered a "major tournament" by most viewers, but is AE technically classified as a "first tier" tournament by BWF standards? :confused:
     
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    no
    because the tournament held by england ba
    while wc,tc,sc,uc was held by bwf
     
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    Among Asian players (and many fans) it is considered major but since it's not BWF sanctioned & doesnt include players from all over the world, other members consider it's not. We had a discussion on this some time back.

    So, if not considered, badminton individual has 3 majors : OG, WC, AE, LD has won all 3
    If considered, then 4 majors : OG, WC, AG, AE, Taufik has won all except AE, the AG 2 times
     
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    But the Olympics is not held by BWF, and yet its considered the most prestigious 1st tier tournament in badminton :rolleyes:
     
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    limsy, i never noticed that until now

    thought it was all the while under ibf then bwf

    maybe england ba older than ibf/bwf ... lol
     
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    So in conclusion, the tier one tournaments in badminton are:

    OG, WC, TC, UC, and SC. AE does not count correct?

    Wikipedia:
    "The Thomas, Uber, and Sudirman Cups, the Olympics, and the BWF World (and World Junior Championships), are all categorized as level one tournaments."

    So if this is true...does that mean LCW technically haven't won any "tier one" tournaments up to date?? :confused:
     
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    you join today

    start a new thread at 9:30pm - ''Has LCW won any 1st tier tournaments?''

    asking around for infor about tournament...

    and before 11:00pm you want to find out lcw technically haven't won't any tier 1 tournament up to date?

    very strange indeed!!

    over to you bcers.....
     
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    :eek:

    I am simply seeking for an answer to my question...and since my question is related to LCW, I thought I would ask it in this LCW thread. Now is this against the BC rules?
     
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    We do not count tournaments as tier one, tier two, etc, that's not how it's categorized. So far, No Msia player have ever won OG or WC. TC, Uber, Sudirman CUp are Team events, Msia have only won TC.

    OG main organiser is of course not BWF but if I not mistaken BWF conducts the badminton section.

    The terms used are : Major(OG, WC, AE-badminton fraternity considers AE as a major title, long story ), SUper Series, GP Gold, GP, International Challenge.... We do not consider World Junior Championship was level 1 either as it's a junior tournament for Under 19 only.
    That's why your questions seem a bit weird.
     
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    no, its not

    but if those china fans come around and read this omg....

    there were so many debates on lcw before

    a lot of members especially the jia yu fans says lcw

    never won a major - olympic, all england, world championship, thomas cup...

    but this year he won the 100th year all england and ...

    its almost quiet now...

    but you come along with this?

    i don't blame you but look what you have done!

    anyway welcome to bc!
     
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