How About Uber Cup Prediction?

Discussion in 'Thomas Cup / Uber Cup 2008' started by well-son, Sep 20, 2007.

?

Who will win the Uber cup 2008?

  1. CHINA

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  2. KOREA

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. MALAYSIA

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. DENMARK

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. INDONESIA

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. OTHER

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. Krisna

    Krisna Regular Member

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2006
    Messages:
    5,893
    Likes Received:
    9
    Occupation:
    General Management
    Location:
    Indonesia
    I agree with you...
     
  2. wilfredlgf

    wilfredlgf Regular Member

    Joined:
    May 6, 2003
    Messages:
    2,583
    Likes Received:
    11
    Occupation:
    Security Engineer
    Location:
    Malaysia
    Is this topic, serious?
     
  3. koo_fan

    koo_fan Regular Member

    Joined:
    May 12, 2007
    Messages:
    2,847
    Likes Received:
    3
    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    Shah Alam
    a few years later..
    maybe the chance will be MAS:CHN 50:50.
    if malaysia do well enough in its players developement.
     
  4. vching

    vching Regular Member

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2007
    Messages:
    4,751
    Likes Received:
    8
    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    Brisbane!
    cannot la.... where can?

    I don't think INA will get the runner up position...
     
  5. Krisna

    Krisna Regular Member

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2006
    Messages:
    5,893
    Likes Received:
    9
    Occupation:
    General Management
    Location:
    Indonesia
    If we actually see INA vs. HKG... then... HKG have to win all 3 singles [and they are very capable of doing that]. The 2 WD should be INA's to take...

    Aside from INA, HKG, and JPN, how come I have not heard KOR being mentioned here? They are good enough to take 2 WD against most others [except against INA]... and good enough to win at least 1 WS [except against HKG]...
     
    #25 Krisna, Oct 8, 2007
    Last edited: Oct 8, 2007
  6. Krisna

    Krisna Regular Member

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2006
    Messages:
    5,893
    Likes Received:
    9
    Occupation:
    General Management
    Location:
    Indonesia
    In my opinion, we should see it in a different angle: what are the chances of MAS getting 3 wins out of 5 matches against CHN Uber Cup team in May 2008? I can't really put a number on it, but basically, it is not good... :eek: Maybe in 2010 or 2012 there might be some change. But as of now... I think realistically... the chances are not good at all... :eek:
     
  7. LazyBuddy

    LazyBuddy Regular Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    10,096
    Likes Received:
    15
    Occupation:
    Engineer
    Location:
    New York, US
    Ok, let's assume your % is true to begin with (but I highly doubt, especially the WD portion). Even so, let's take the 3 highest ones to make the calculation to get your overall chance.

    From stats, you need the 3 wins, which the chance is 40% x 35% x 35% = 5%. Of course, to get to victory, there should be other possible "combos", but the outcome is even smaller. I assume the final outcome is no where near 33% as you claimed. I assume your 33% comes from the average of 5 events, which is not the correct way to calculate the "chance". :rolleyes:
     
  8. wilfredlgf

    wilfredlgf Regular Member

    Joined:
    May 6, 2003
    Messages:
    2,583
    Likes Received:
    11
    Occupation:
    Security Engineer
    Location:
    Malaysia
    I really want to know how you dudes get those seriously accurate approximations*.

    * Hmm...
     
  9. samuel882

    samuel882 Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2007
    Messages:
    7,837
    Likes Received:
    5
    Occupation:
    Tour Leader
    Location:
    Planet of Lords
    Why should us keep on calculating the chances here as the match itself WOULD NOT be happened anyway
     
  10. LazyBuddy

    LazyBuddy Regular Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    10,096
    Likes Received:
    15
    Occupation:
    Engineer
    Location:
    New York, US
    With Zhou Mi's current form, I think she's still not fully back to her peak. And next year, she's 1 more year older. Yip has a great future, but beating ZN and/or XXF once a year, still does not give ppl too much hope. :rolleyes:
     
  11. Krisna

    Krisna Regular Member

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2006
    Messages:
    5,893
    Likes Received:
    9
    Occupation:
    General Management
    Location:
    Indonesia
    Exactly! :D So the chances are not good...
     
  12. vching

    vching Regular Member

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2007
    Messages:
    4,751
    Likes Received:
    8
    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    Brisbane!
    but.... what if malaysia actually beat china? would it be the biggest upset in badminton history?
     
  13. ctjcad

    ctjcad Regular Member

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2004
    Messages:
    19,083
    Likes Received:
    6
    Location:
    u.s.a.
    And..

    ..if MAS do beat CHN in Uber Cup, would you be suspicious also on what happened? Knowing well the probability of that happening is very2 low almost zero, would you then suggest for an investigation to be done?..:rolleyes:;)
     
  14. chandler_k04

    chandler_k04 Regular Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2005
    Messages:
    63
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Indonesia
    Germany

    I am sure they have a great chance to go to final, with xu, schenk, grether.

    Just wonder where is Petra Overzier?
     
  15. edwin

    edwin Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2002
    Messages:
    540
    Likes Received:
    0
    Occupation:
    Computer Programmer
    Location:
    Toronto
    Looks like Chau Hoi Wah from Hong Kong has improved a lot in WD play (the Sudirman Cup victory over Thailand's WD is still fresh in my mind). If she partners with Zhou Mi in one WD and Koon Wai Chee partners with Wang Chen in another WD, HK will have 2 extremely strong, but underated WD Team. I wouldn't be suprised if HK can gain at least 1 points from doubles when playing against Indo Malaysia, Denmark, Japan, or maybe even Korea.
     
  16. Wong8Egg

    Wong8Egg Regular Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2004
    Messages:
    1,611
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Toronto
    China is pretty much sure win even if they don't send the first 2 ranked WD and WS.
     
  17. edwin

    edwin Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2002
    Messages:
    540
    Likes Received:
    0
    Occupation:
    Computer Programmer
    Location:
    Toronto
    China is a sure win for the Uber Cup.

    But if they don't send out their 1st 2 ranked WS, they will have a good chance of winning, but it won't be a sure win.

    The Chinese depth in WS is not quite the same as the era of Gong Zhichao, Gong Ruina, Ye Zhaoying, Dai Yun, Zhou Mi, etc. If they choose to rest Zhang Ning and Xie Xinfang for the upcoming Uber cup, the lineup vs HK may be:

    Zhu Lin vs Wang Chen
    Lu Lan vs Zhou Mi
    Wang Lin or Wang Yihan vs Yip Pui Yin

    With this lineup, I think HK has a reasonable chance (around 25%) of winning all 3 WS games

    I agree with you with the WD though. Even if China rests Gao Ling/Huang Sui and Yang Wei/Zhang Jiewan, the team of Wei Yili/Zhang Zhawen and Zhao Tingting/Yu Yang will likely beat all other competitors. It will be a close one between Wei Yili/Zhang Zhawen vs Lee/Lee of Korea. Even if Wei/Zhang loses, the Chinse WS will still have a good chance of winning at least 2 out of 3 matches in WS against Korea.
     
  18. fook1125

    fook1125 Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2007
    Messages:
    106
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Malaysia
    If malaysia can go to the world stage,maybe they can reach semi.........They reach quarter in someyear but was beat by China
     
  19. fook1125

    fook1125 Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2007
    Messages:
    106
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Malaysia
    possible malaysia line-up


    Mew Choo WONG

    Pei Xian WONG

    Li Ya CHEAH

    Pei Tty WONG/Eei Hui CHIN

    Swee Ling QUAY/Pek Siah LIM or Hui Lin NG/Liu Ying GOH

    notes:if QUAY/LIM can get back pair together,unfortunately their will be the 2nd doubles best choice
     
  20. ngkt67

    ngkt67 Regular Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2007
    Messages:
    4,284
    Likes Received:
    279
    Location:
    Kuala Lumpue
    oh wait... Woon Khe Mei will be 'reserve'......:D:D:D
     

Share This Page