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how important are hold shots in high level doubles games?

Discussion in 'General Forum' started by thumpsky, Apr 7, 2012.

  1. thumpsky

    thumpsky Regular Member

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    they are currently my favorite shot
     
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    or is it better to just hit it high and early?
     
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    I think they are more important in singles but still a viable shot in doubles as well. Just don't do it too often. I'd rather hit the shuttle high and early so that i have more options how and where to place the shot.
     
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    Any shots that help u gain points r good. Same as high shot, but when it becoz too often, it becomes too predictable. N if u look at it, in doubles, High shots r usually for clears n dun really help u gain points. Most prefer faster n flat pushes or smashes to kill yr opponent.
     
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    i do it infrequently. the main reason i do it is when i find the other team is becoming very good at anticipating and i want to keep them stuck in position a little longer.
     
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    What are 'hold shots"?:confused:
     
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    To a certain degree pro players use hold shots all the time, since they dont take a big swing nor are predictable in there play.

    Its just that the game is so fast paced in MD particular we rarely notice the hold.

    But at an intermediate level it is a bad habit to develop unless you are as quick as a top level player since you will ut yourself at a disadvantAge by letting the shuttle drop to far.
     
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    same here:confused:
     
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    Shots where you hold your racket in front of you when the shuttle will be taken around net height and pause before hitting in order to get your opnent off balance or guessing where you will hit.

    In top level play the length of the hold is marginal. The skill is being able to hit fast shots without any backlift, since the backlift is the cue for the opponent you are going to hit it.
     
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    In top level doubles, is no point in holding and lifting it ,for obvious reason

    It only become useful , if you hold , drop the racket and flick it (low) cross-court to deceive the front player.

    As someone already mentioned , the best tactic for front player in doubles is to hit the shuttle as early as possible
     
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    In my opinion they're pretty useless. Remember that you're playing against two people, not just one. It's no good deceiving the front player if all you're doing is flicking it up for their partner to smash.

    I used to play with a doubles partner who did this a lot. It was infuriating. So many times he could have just played the simple net roll and forced the opponent to lift the shuttle, but instead he was giving away the attack all the time.
     
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    Dont assume that a hold shot involves lifting. A hold shot is any shot that is hit with a slight delay. It is very common in MD, in defence especially but also around the net. Most are quite subtle.
     
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    'Hold shots'; can u show us anyone did it in advance doubles? Videos n please specify at which timeframe did it occur. Appreciated it if u can show us, guys.:)
     
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    for examples, see cai yun... he does it often on receiving serves

    a double action... showing one way, but hitting the other way at the last moment
     
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    Just to clarify, I would never give away a kill shot to hold it for a "deceptive" lift.
     
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    I mainly do it off the serve return as well :)
     
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    Effective for hold and push. Depends on the level you play. For us mere mortals at the intermediate level, there are definite benefits.
     
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    not that important: high level MD formation equalize by and large all likely returns given a tactical situation, a hold shot gets its importance where equalizing formations got destroyed by chaos on the court, you also can trick people into movements by hold shots when they try anticipate too much
     
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    a hold shot should not be used for the sake of tricky artistry, but to correct and exploit tactical situations that arises by anticipating early movements.
     

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