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how to reduce vibration?

Discussion in 'Badminton Rackets / Equipment' started by hydrocyanic, Feb 28, 2006.

  1. hydrocyanic

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    now i can feel the pain of vibration from racket... ouch :(

    anyway to solve it?
     
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    Which racket?

    Thanks.
     
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    string is bg66
     
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    :D Expected, I felt the same!!! But... my previous PROACE Thunderbolt II generated greater vibration. That was one of the reasons why I purchased the Nanospeed 9000X, hoping for the better...:rolleyes:

    Most likely thicker grips should reduce the vibration slightly, but... not much...

    Thanks.
     
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    Iso-shaped racquets and stiff racquets have more frame shock and vibrations. Using BG80 or BG85 strings will help a little. Using a Vectran racquet is even better as shock and vibrations are almost completely absent.
     
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    i am tempted by your E1000, but thing is, there are too many off-spec rackets around, since i am not in HK to actually see/get it, i don't want to risk that 900dollars

    bg80... i will give a try after finishing my bg66 first, thanks :)

    no clue about ns9k, but ns8k does feel better in terms of vibration, so it is likely that ns9k will feel the same/better

    not getting ns9k soon... oh well
     
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    cab would have less vibration?
     
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    Probably more so than isometrix since cabs have smaller sweet areas, but it's all good because the vibrations provide better feedback on your shot. If the vibration is bugging you, perhaps you should relax more in your swing.

     
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    This might seem a dumb question, but can anybody please tell me what exactly is vibration when hitting the bird(just to clarify, I do understand what the WORD means in english)? I mean are we talking about some sort of feedback when one hits the bird? greater vibration will be generated with greater feedback that you can feel it in the arm area(so call vibration??)? I am asking this because I hardly notice any SO CALL vibration(if vibration means shaking) from rackets, however, take my AT800DF (CP) for example, after playing it for a while, I notice the part between my lower arm and upper arm (the other side of the elbow, the joint area) starts hurting, I can feel the pain if I do a hard smash and the pain is quite noticable at the instant of contacting the bird. However, with my other rackets, MP99 for example, it isn't too much of a problem(unless I play like long long long hrs... maybe). HOwever, couple days ago got myself strung with BG80 with the MP99, 22*24, and the arm pain effect seems to come back by a very small degree..(no way near the lvl of AT800, but definitely feel it). However, I do find the string tension is a bit hard for my taste but I know once it drops down a lb or 2 I be alright(I mean I am hitting harder with it compare to my previous string). So my question is, is it the stiffness thats causing my pain? and since the stiffness is IMO a combine factor or tension and the actual stiffness of the racket. Also, what can I do to make my AT800DE playable for me? (beside go into weight lifting etc to train up my arm). Would replacing the original grip by some kind of so call shock absorbant type of replacement grip helps? I mean the tension on that is my normal tension plus it is already way passed its break in period... so I don't know if I can go any lower than that(originally strung with 22 24, the 800). Any advice would help, thanks in advance.
     
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    Oval racquets will vibrate much less than iso racquets. This is because the longer the strings the greater the degree of vibrations. Oval has very short middle main strings compared with iso. Vibrations are the aftermath vibrations after the intial shock (called frame shock) that sent the shuttle away. Very long middle main strings, very stiff racquets and very high tensions are good recipe for vibrations and frame shock. Carbon graphite is very poor in dampening both frame shock and frame vibrations. Nano racquets are better. The best is Vectran, which is the very same material used to cushion the Pathfinders landing on Mars.
     
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    any other way than getting a new racket to solve this problem?

    thank you
     
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    Use oval racquets, avoid high tensions and stiff racquets, try BG85 or BG80 strings, and lastly use a thick and cushy grip!
     
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    Has anyone tried putting an elastic band (short and thick ones) and tie it at the bottom of the head strings. I know it definitely reduce vibration on a tennis racquet.
    That's my two cents worth!

    Robbie
     
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    Are you sure? All my iso frame are longer then my cab20ms and same or longer and my cab30ms...
     
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    Iso has a flatter and wider top. Their 8 middle main strings are longer their their oval counterparts. Oval's main strings in the middle start getting shorter as you go outwards, much more so than an iso's. The unused string left over when stringing an oval racquet is significantly longer than for iso.
     
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    My Airblade Rasmussen Superlite also vibrated probably because it was too light that is what I thought, after putting on two layers of overgrip, but very high up, so it felt like one grip, it reduced the vibrations immensly.
     
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    While this maybe true in theory, all other things being equal, I don't believe it's true in the real world because just about all oval rackets have less technology behind them and a smaller sweetspot.

    Ovals have smaller sweetspots so when you mishit, you feel the vibration whereas ISOs will have less vibration because the sweetspot is bigger...you will feel like you mishit less; in addition to the better material/technology for dampening.

    It would be interesting to compare the identical material and technology rackets and see if the oval vibrates less.
     
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    You can do that, add a "shock absorber" like in tennis. However, I feel tennis and badminton are vastly different sports in that in tennis, you don't need to "feel" the tennis ball as much as you need to feel the bird in badminton.

    Adding a shock absorber to your badminton racket will reduce shock but make your racket feel numb. It will be much harder to "feel" skill shots, especially your net game.

    Unless the vibration from the racket gives you pain or bothers you that much, I would not recommend using a shock absorber in badminton. On the otherhand, I encourage tennis players to use shock absorbers. It's a different game. :p
     
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    i don't think it was much of a off-center hit really...
    thats wat troubles me
     
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    Time to find a new racket. :p

    That's the problem with older technology/older rackets, not as much vibration dampening. If you like the Ti10, try the Woven 7, it's similar. If you want to stick with Yonex... best to try them all.
     

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