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Increasing tension after stringing

Discussion in 'Badminton Stringing Techniques & Tools' started by Neil Nicholls, Nov 17, 2006.

  1. Neil Nicholls

    Neil Nicholls Regular Member

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    Some guy who's racquet I strung has come back and said he would like it tighter. From 19lb to 22/23 lb. It's only been like 2 weeks, so I am happy enough to try for him. He is also happy to pay for a full restring if I can't do it.

    I've never done it before though.

    Anyone got any tips regarding undoing the knots?
    And I'm not sure an extra 3/4 lb will gain me enough string to re-tie knots afterwards.

    It's a 2 piece job, so I can leave the starting knot of the crosses.
    Would be best to only undo 1 of the mains knots, and re-tension the mains side to side?
     
  2. jamesd20

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    My feeling would be if he is paying you to tighten it, which will take longer than a full restring, then why not pay an extra £3-4 for the string and have a full restring?
     
  3. Neil Nicholls

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    I'm tightening it for free.

    edit: if I can

    edit2: tightening wouldn't involve weaving it all again, so it's not so much work - other than the knots
     
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    In that case I would try to tighten it, but IMHO without weaving it all again I can't see how you could safely get the extra tension on and tie the new knots.
     
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    Tell him you cannot do it and just re-string. It's very difficult to undo and tighten, it takes a long time and is a pain.
     
  6. silentheart

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    Depend. If it is with 2 knots method, dont bother because it will cause uneven string bed. If it is done by 4 knots method, it is possible to just tighten corsses with fix clamp. Here is how I would done it if it was done buttom up method. I know I will get yelled at...

    Kids, DO NOT try this at HOME!!! Just like I never done this before.

    1) Mount the racquet on string machine.
    2) Press down the 2nd lower cross and clamp the 1st lower string.
    3) Press down the 3rd lower corss and clamp the 2nd lower cross.
    4) Repeat the process to the top.
    5) One the top tide off, you should have some slack to untide the tide off knot. DO NOT untide the knot completely because it will be impossible to tide it back again.
    6) Get your long nose plier and pull the knot to take out the slack.

    Good luck and have a nice weekend.
     
  7. cooler

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    not worth it neil because:
    1. u have to lose at least 1 cross and 1 main length for pull length + tying new knots. 3-4 lbs is not enough to gain new length. 1 piece job is do-able tho.
    2. u have to still weave some coz u have to pull the string.
    3. 2 piece job is just too messy to redo.
     
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    that's a novel idea:)
    if only we can have a 180 degree tilting puller (3D machine) it would make thing more easier.:D
     
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    Just to add on to DinkALot post.

    Niel, this cannot be done because the string is elongated from stringing. Therefore, you would have to cut the strings and put a new set of strings on at the desired tension.
     
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    wow...now that's job dedication!

    If the strings haven't notched in yet (like bg85 does so explicitly) you might wanna try yanking it all out and do a 20x21 pattern...
    Do you have a starting-clamp? that might save you...
     
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    The fact that the string is already elongated, it's no good even trying to re-tightning. The string will not be the same because it is even more elongated than before than if you did it with a fresh set of strings. The string performance would certain be affected and the string could break.
     
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    Very difficult to do. Untying the knots is a major issue.
     
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    Nice idea, I may try this.
     
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    I can use my starting clamp as a jumper so I don't need much string unweaved to be able to re-pull it.
     
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    He might have only played with it twice, so the strings should be in pretty good condition.
     
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    Neil Nicholls Regular Member

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    Thanks for the replies everyone.
    I'll try to do it anyway, because I told him I would.
    I don't want to charge him for a full restring wothout even trying.
    I'll let you know how it turns out.
    I won't get the racquet until tommorow night, so i shall probably make an attempt on Sunday.
     
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    The problem is that the string has already been stretched, there is not a point as I mentioned above. It does not matter if it just been stringed up. It will not be the same as it was before.
     
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    I don't understand why that is a problem.

    But, in deferrence to your concern, I will have a hit with it before and after (if there is an after) to check the difference.
     
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    Even I gave you the method, I am still against the idea. It was just an idea. I also am against the idea of unstring the cross then restring because the you might bruse the main when you pull out the cross.

    Just for your info. If you have a piano, find the key that match to your string tone before. By adding 1 lb on the main, it should be 1/2 note higher. 2 lb on the main should give you 1 note higher.

    1 last thing, to go from 19 lb to 22/23 lb? You REALLY REALLY need to start from fresh.
     
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    i rethink your idea over lunch. It's a novel idea. Only one potential downside not yet tested. Point pressuring (stress) from line to line isnt good for the string in question nor good for its adjacent strings perpendicular to it.
     

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