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Indonesia Badminton

Discussion in 'Indonesia Professional Players' started by kidosetiawan, May 15, 2007.

  1. huangkwokhau

    huangkwokhau Regular Member

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    :D:D now many Indonesian native learn Mandarin now...Sigit is a friendly guy...
     
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    Contract problem....again???

    Oh dear....another familiar issue arised yet again before 2 important tourneys....money....with players' contract money from Yonex yet to be released by PBSI :cool: Flandy even lamented...."3 months without pay"......:mad: The amount is US$125,000 or Rp 1.2 Billion for the period of May-July 2007, which is the players' main source of income and it is overdue for more than a month now.

    Appartently, the money has already been given by Yonex, but yet to be transferred to players' accounts, since the approval has yet been signed by the head of PBSI. So, Taufik Hidayat, acting as a representative for the players is wondering where is the money stuck now and how come it take so long for Sutiyoso (PBSI's head) to sign the letter to release the funds to the players :cool:

    Please feel free to translate the remaining text :p

    Title: Players Demand Contract Money
    Source: BolaNews
    [FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Pemain Tuntut Uang Kontrak

    [SIZE=-1]Keresahan melanda pemain Pelatnas Cipayung. Menjelang berangkat ke turnamen Jepang Super Series di Tokyo, 11-16 September, konsentrasi mereka terganggu. Uang kontrak pemain belum juga dibayar. “Tiga bulan belum gajian nih!” ujar Flandy Limpele.

    Seharusnya uang kontrak kolektif Yonex untuk termin Mei-Juli telah dibayarkan. Namun, uang sebesar 125 ribu dolar AS atau sekitar 1,2 miliar rupiah yang merupakan hak pemain itu hingga sebulan lebih belum juga diberikan PBSI.

    Saya dapat kabar uang dari Yonex itu sebenarnya sudah cair, tapi kenapa belum diberikan ke pemain? Mentoknya di mana? Yang mengherankan, uang itu katanya tinggal disetujui ketua umum, tapi kabarnya susah ditemui. Berapa lama sih waktu untuk tanda tangan?” tutur Taufik Hidayat, yang jadi juru bicara pemain.

    Menurut Taufik bersama rekan-rekan di Pelatnas Cipayung, Rabu (5/9) siang, persoalan ini pernah ditanyakan ke pengurus harian. Jawaban yang didapat, sebelum Kejuaraan Dunia, medio Agustus, uang kontrak sudah cair. Tetapi, hingga kini belum ada tanda-tanda.

    Taufik mengungkapkan bagi pemain yang mendapat bonus seperti dari Kejuaraan Dunia lalu tentu tidak pusing. Namun, buat pemain muda yang hanya mengandalkan uang saku per bulan dari PBSI sebesar Rp 600 ribu tentu menyulitkan.

    “Kasihan mereka, sekarang apa-apa naik. Padahal, mereka juga harus membayar uang cucian, kantin, pulsa, bensin hingga tol yang juga naik. Tolong deh,” ujar Taufik.

    “Saya hanya minta hak kami dibayar. Apalagi, uang kontrak ini sudah sering telat,” sebut Sony Dwi Kuncoro.

    Bahkan, menurut Nova Widianto, kalau PBSI memang benar tidak punya dana, pemain siap mental seandainya tak jadi diberangkatkan ke Jepang Super Series. “Saya kecewa dengan kerja pengurus,” tegasnya.

    Komunikasi Tak Jalan

    Disampaikan Taufik, dahulu sempat terlontar dari mulut salah satu pengurus yang menyebut bahwa ada uang kontrak kolektif sampai terlambat bakal ditalangin. “Sekarang buktinya apa? Kita ngomong berkali-kali tetapi tak pernah ditanggapi,”

    Pemain pun bertambah bingung karena komunikasi dengan Ketua Umum PBSI Sutiyoso macet. Padahal, ada keinginan pemain bertemu pengurus lengkap agar segala persoalan bisa mendapat jawaban dan ada solusinya sehingga tak perlu membuka aib ini ke media massa. Apalagi, tahun depan ada hajatan penting, perebutan Piala Thomas-Uber dan Olimpiade Beijing.

    “Akhirnya kami hanya bisa bicara dengan Lius Pongoh sebab dengan pengurus teras lainnya rasanya sulit. Kami sudah ngomong sampai berbusa-busa, tetapi kalau meminta kejelasan sesuatu hal kepada pengurus jawabannya selalu dioper-oper,” ucap Taufik.

    “Kami sebenarnya tidak ingin masalah ini sampai ke media. Namun, untuk bertemu pengurus secara lengkap, susahnya setengah mati,” timpal Nova. (Broto Happy W.)[/SIZE]

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  3. ants

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    This is very common. Im not suprised.
     
  4. huangkwokhau

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    This problem has been there for years and years.....I commented a while that Sutiyoso is not the right figure to run Badminton organization....let alone as Asian Badminton President....if you can not manage your household, how you could manage the whole villages...

    This is embarassment for Sutiyoso. I hope He fixes it otherwise more players will leave for other countries....or quit and move to other clubs like Djarum..

    You can not blame the players to bring this matter out to news media as Nova said that they have hard time to meet Sutiyoso and Taufik suggested how difficult to sign the fund release which had been agreed upon....

    Indonesia....Indonesia....I think it is time to have petition to retire Sutiyoso...
     
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    No pay from May to July, and still can win the world champion ?. Respect la these players ..
     
  6. huangkwokhau

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    Yup..it is amazing that they still won....feel sorry for the players...
    God bless them hope they release the fund as Ramadhan is approaching shortly....
     
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    we need revolution in PBSI.. Krisna might be willing to be a 'martir' :)
     
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    The classic matter, PBSI always demand achievement from the players without totally commitment to fulfill their right. Contract money and bureaucracy are primary obstacles that make all shuttlers desperately how to overcome this problem. No intensive communication between players and PBSI top-level official.

    INA's economic condition become worst and worst, all prices had raised including highway,gasoline and don't know what will get impact of tariff-adjusted in upcoming days. With IDR.600.000 only, definitely this pocketmoney isn't enough and too minimal even lower than DKI Jakarta's UMR (Upah Minimum Regional) or Regional Minimum Wage standard. Really pathetic!
     
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    Go, Krisna, go! Hahahahaha.. Take Sutiyoso's place.. Oh, and, Mas Sigit can speak chinese.. During those times when he dated Gong Ruina I guess.. but he told me that he's forgotten now, since he never uses it anymore...
     
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    The solution...

    One big way to revive INA badminton and end these endless money dispute is to return to the individual contract system [used before 1986 or something... before this stupid collective contract system]... :mad: Our former PBSI president Mr. Dick Sudirman and Mr. Ferry Sonneville was in favor of the individual contract system while Mr. Tri Sutrisno [the former vice-president of Soeharto] and whomever became president of PBSI after him favor the collective contract system. :crying:

    Why? Unfortunately, this current collective contract system is a way for any current PBSI management to earn money [an mismanage it as they please :mad:] while letting the players work for the management... If the chosen system is the individual contract [like before Pak Tri Sutrisno's era], the players can earn way more money for themselves... :D [this will induce more people to become professional badminton players]...

    After the players get the money straight from the sponsors... they have the right to manage [or mismanage] their own personal finances as they please... ;)
     
  11. taufik-ist

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    only one word "wo ai ni" that he stil remembers :D :D
     
  12. kimpe_bultang

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    I remembered the famous chinese 'indo'words... "wo ai ni, ni pu yao wo paksa!" LMAO... :D :D :D And I" could only laugh when he said that...
     
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    you eat too much indo mi kary ayam. anyway MD and Xd just won the WC and runner up in MS. so, pelatnas still producting good badminton player.if you talk about money, evrybody want money eventhe head of PBSI.
     
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    PBSI may want sponsors, but the targeted sponsors may not want.. Right??
     
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    Haha......classic :p
    "Ni paksa...I lari..." :D
     
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    This issue has been brought up before..

    ..and discussed, somewhat, in this thread, if anyone's interested to read...it's rearing its ugly head, again..:p;):
    http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=446241
     
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    Long time ago?? Really...

    ..it was posted nearly a yr. ago, no?!?!:confused:...Anyways, it's roughly "treading" on the same kind of issue/matter as this current one: $$$:mad::(:p..have you read/follow that entire thread??..;)
     
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  19. huangkwokhau

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    The problem here that Sutiyoso promised that the delay wont happen again.....well...it happens again...thats one of taufik's critic about management openly in newspaper....saying that the management could not fault the players only but the management should be more objectives and things should change within management also....
     
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    Your blessing is also your curse...

    They did talk about delayed payment last year ..and again after this year's World Championship because... the same ugly thing was repeated! :crying:

    Yup. Exactly, hau-ge! :cool:

    ....yet despite facing these very far-from-condusive environment continuously... INA was still the runner-up of the 2005 and 2007 Sudirman Cup ...and we have 2 current World Champions... :eek: :eek: :eek: Amazing! :eek: I can't explain it myself... :p How many terribly-managed badminton-country can still accomplish such feats?!? :p :p :p [To other BC members: this last question a rethorical question...not meant to be answered :p]

    Can you imagine what other big things INA players can achieve if INA badminton is actually well-managed?!? :D:D:D That's why I believe very much in the long-term future of INA badminton... We are just so damn blessed with so many badminton talents year-after-year-after-year...

    As the Chinese saying goes: "Your blessing is also your curse" :p Because talents keep popping up and popping up in INA, the management took so many things for granted...

    In my opinion, INA is the Brazil of badminton! :cool: In soccer, Brazil just have soooo many talents in their gene-pool and soccer-crazed culture... According to my Brazilian friends, soccer-management over there was [in general] terrible. After dominating between 1958 to 1970, ...between 1974 and 1990 Brazil can't reach the World Cup final game. But between 1994-2002, they were in the final game every time due to somewhat better management... :)

    INA surely have the gene-pool and the badminton-crazed culture. Now we just need better management / better policies and things will change for the better! :cool: We shall see... :cool:
     
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