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It is only the Phillippines Open la

Discussion in 'Professional Players' started by Pemuda, Jul 23, 2007.

  1. Pemuda

    Pemuda Regular Member

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    With respect to the Phillippines Open, I think the Msian press and public should not get over the moon thinking that KKK/TBH are now back in business.

    The Phillippines Open cannot be used as an indicator simply because the opponents there were 3rd rate. And we simply cannot start building castle in the sky and think that KKK/TBH are now on course to take the WC simply because they won the PO.

    Thats the problem with Msian sports. We win one minor tournament and the whole buildup will start again ... and later we will fall flat on our face.
     
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    You r 100% rite
     
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    true true...
    the opponents they played in PO are not so top class rated...
    but at least their performance is much better than previous two...
    as for WC, they are just not qualify as yet to win...
     
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    Its true that PO is a minor tournament. However KKK/TBH shows that their form its back & most importantly their on-court spirit is high, thats what us fans r cheering about! They should be given more positive encouragement than negative comments like this.
     
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    Trailling from behind to snatch the game in the 2nd set does shows that they are on the right track. Its not easy to play when you are trailing by so many points.
     
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    For MD is nearly impossible.
     
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    I think the important thing here is that there form has come back. We will know see if there training has paid off in the coming World Championship.
     
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    Agree. They should however consider it a good tune up and confidence builder. It gave them an opportunity to iron out some kinks and put to the test some of the stuff they've been doing at practice. It now puts them in the right frame of mind going into the WC.
     
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    That's the main different of MAS players compare with the Chinese team.. Win a champs then get carried away .. and overjoyyed ! While u can see the form of the whole Chinese team never drop so significantly after their win.. Even in Olympics, WC, AE.. One fine example is ZN.. LD... Their wining chart is never like an roller coaster... is "near to straight" line in their chart.. I wonder any others country can produce the same consisitent players...
    No doubt.. KKK/TBh ever enjoy couple of continuos success.. But to be a true champion which win over fans' respect.. They must shows their consistent as Chinese players.. The most importantly.. win in Major tournamets.. such as the coming WC & Olympic.. Then only we can said they are as great as the ever consistent chinese
     
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    You just can't win !!! When you loose, you get the bashing, when you win, its not good enough. Bottom line, this win is a big boost to their confidence and a huge step from the past three months. Why can't we take this as a positive step for the pairs. Let's cheer their success and root them to another victory at WC 2007. Be a die-hard fan !!!!!
     
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    They simply having an outstanding perfomance in PO.. However.. It was not logic for ALL of us fink that a victory frm an Last OPens before WC will be guarantee them the title ..
    PO is over by now..We should STOP praising them .. Let them focus to the preparation in training.. Young players needs praise but they also needs crictism to mature as a great players.
     
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    The players themselves knows that there is a big task ahead of them as WC is approaching.
     
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    In the first place they should not be trailing behind 3rd rate opponents (thank god Cai/Fu was not there). The Philippines Open is a good warm up yes. But it is certainly no indicator.

    It is certainly not gonna be easy playing against top rate opponents.
     
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    It is no bashing. What I am saying is that we in Msia should not fall back into our usual "chest thumping" whenever our sportsmen/women win something and then go about thinking that we are gonna conquer the world in the Malaysia Boleh trumpet call.

    Am not sure about winning the PO is a big boost to their confidence and a "huge step" forward for KKK/TBH. I think the PO is like a warm up kinda thingy.

    I am a realist. And KKK/TBH have yet to convince me that they will be up there amongst the legends.
     
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    Great attitude. But Darien types would be what we call 'cynics.' No matter what is done, it's never good enough and the doubts will continue to simmer.Best approach is to not waste any energy, money or time on cynics.Over time, cynics may change, if ever.
     
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    You know, types like pjswift are gonna jump on you like a group of monkeys fighting over a bunch of bananas. They are wishful thinkers and for the likes of them winning the PO is a step forward to the WC and Olympic Gold. In Msia, we have numerous wishful thinkers in all sports association. It is a Msian disease actually.
     
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    Nowadays, 3rd rate opponents can suddenly turn on the heat in the space of one tournament. You'll have to promote them cos they beat 2 solid INA MDs otherwise you have to demote INA MDs to 4th rate. The fact that they have to give fu/cai WO in CM07 would suggest that they would have taken a lot out of fu/cai to make them vulnerable to TBH/OSH. 3rd rate? Think again.
    What would your reaction be if kkk/tbh had not won the PO title?
     
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    Winning the PO may not the greatest acheivement in LCW or KKK/TBH career, but nothing beat the feeling of winning, especially for KKK/TBH who has not tasted this feeling for a while. It may push them to want to feel it again and again.

    If I may use the analogy of the good striker who suddenly lost his goal scoring touches, he went games after games just could not get in a goal even though he did all the right things in getting into good positions, moving on and off the ball, with or without possession etc. Everything seems to go against him. A good coach will in those instance, put him in a reserve game, or a cup game against a much weaker team which he will normally be rested, let him have a chance to score a brace or more. Sure, one may say he is expected to do that, but by scoring again this striker will find back his confidence and drop the self-doubt about his own ability to score.

    So in that regard, winning PO can only be good news for KKK/TBH, especially with Rexy around, who seem to know about the Malaysia team potential.

    As I have said in other threads that Malaysia MD has the critical mass to success, and with more pairs coming into life at the right time, it is an advantage over the likes of China and Indonesia.
     
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    nice comparison.. Another thing for KKK/TBH which is similiar to football is... sometimes u play very attractive games... but eventually u will lost the match.. Sometimes u plays poor but still u will win it...
    It happens in many sports match... No doubt... Watching Koo/Tan games is very exciting/entertaining... However. sometimes they really needs to play abit more to "real" .. In other words.. Play to win... Not Play to be attractive but lost !
     
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    Malaysian Press and Public sometimes just over-praised the players.:( Appropriate encouragement is necessary for continual successes but improper praises could bring negative impacts.

    The coaches Misbun & Rexy have done a very good job to bring our players back on tracks and they are well aware that some players have improved but still below their best.:)

    The players themselves should realize that winning titles again just a big boost to regain the confidence & should not overjoy over it ahead of big event. There is still a long long way to go & room for improvement.:cool:

    ALL the best for Malaysia Badminton! MALAYSIA BOLEH!
     

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