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It's Official - No Penalty for Lin Dan or Li Mao

Discussion in 'Professional Players' started by huangkwokhau, Mar 14, 2008.

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  1. huangkwokhau

    huangkwokhau Regular Member

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    BWF has concluded the investigation and blamed heavily on Korean Organizer for favouring local players...
    BWF will recommend that all major events including upcoming Olympic will use Independent Line Judges...
     
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    i have no comment.....................
    :confused::confused::confused:
     
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    Lindan Escapes Punishment over Korea Incident

    Badminton World Federation's Major Incident Review Team (MIRT) have decided not to punish Lindan over the incident that happens in Korea. However BWF will be looking into the Hawkeye system and as well as pushing for more independent line judges in the future tournaments.
     
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    same here, same to Hau-ge's thread
    i have no comment..........
    :confused::confused::confused:
     
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    That would be fair, I guess LD wouldnt do something so rash if un-provoked.
     
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    yes, LD should not be punished, however, LM should be sent to xxxx
     
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    i still reckon they should both be punished, even if it's a fine just to set an example that this kind of behaviour should not be tolerated.
     
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    both should be found guilty of unsporting behaviour, whether or not provoked.
     
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    this will 'encourage' other players in the future to do the same thing! cuz they think the won't be any punishment...
     
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    BWF is sending wrong message.
     
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    Using independent line judges will have a big impact on the overall costing of the game, will it be good for badminton in the long run?
     
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    If the independent line-judges make the game reach a higher standard, it should weigh more than the costs to achieve that. I believe what MIRT/BWF is trying at the moment, can change the game in a positive way.

    Both should not be punished, in my opinion. Lin Dan had a reason to get angry, although his behaviour wasn't ok. However, Li Mao didn't have that reason.
     
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    IMO, KBA should be warned of the linejudging and Lindan should be punished for his actions. LiMao has no reason to be punished since he is defending himself from the racket thrown by Lindan.
     
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    careful ants, you might get flamed by some of the forumers for saying that ...
    :rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
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    I dont really care actually. Just speaking my mind. Rules is rules. I hope Lindan will not be angry with me if he read this. :) Hehehe.
     
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    The findings obviously blame the KBA for creating an environment that incited all sorts of unruly behaviour and even possible violence. KBA was the root cause, and any unruly outbursts/behaviour were solely caused by the KBA's biased and poor management of the tournament.
     
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    yeah, ahhahaha, it seems LD can get quite scary when he's angry. i wouldn't dare do anything to upset him .... :p
     
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    no need to justify again what should be the appropriate penalties for each party, we all have our says and votes in the 'penalty for lin dan' thread http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51906 and poll. Repeating the debate of 'what it should be the right penalty' here only risk closing this thread. I suggest discussing matters forward looking.

    I'm glad bwf had considered the whole situation (plus many other unspoken variables) in making their rulings. As i have said before, bwf can throw the book at LD but LD's specific action isn't in the book. I believe LD already got penalized. He was just a runner up plus losing the $ difference between 1st and 2nd prize. If LHI is such a supreme player, he shouldn't lose to a china 4th stringer chen yu in fiirst round 08 AE. He also got trounced by a lowly ranked vietnam TM Nguyen like 21-9 21-9 in the first round again in the following week SWISS Open. (and lost PAW points guessing TNM vs R. Susilo in the SWISS OPEN, like many of us:D)

    I still think independent line judging is just a temporary solution because human do make errors. In the 08 AE, the few videos i've watched, i myself saw 2 bad line calls, one against LCW and another against korea in MD final. The question is, how much human errors can we live with?

    To conclude, the 'no penalty' for lin dan voters win the PAW:p
    and ~72% of voters saw it differently
     
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    I think BWF takes a rather positive approach overall, as they try to fix the problem from the "root" by implementing more reliable judgement system.

    Whether LD or LM or both should be punished, is rather a smaller issue when compare to the whole situation of line judegement. Therefore, BWF might not even bother to poke the 2 power houses, instead, trying to fix the problem, and prevent it to repeat for the future.

    Personally, I don't think it's a message to players as they can feel free to start a fight or shooting darts all over the place. Anyone has some basic sense should know what is right or wrong. I believe if the "root" is fixed, the chance to cause such incidents should be greatly reduced to begin with. ;)
     
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    Still, if i'm a player, i wouldn't try provoke BWF again hoping that i can get away with the same thing.
     
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