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Kento Momota (桃田賢斗)

Discussion in 'Japan Professional Players' started by zimmerman, Nov 12, 2012.

  1. Quentin11

    Quentin11 Regular Member

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    Zenkoku right? :p Nationals.... i'm a manga fan so i know some japanese words.

    Yes and Momota played more matches than Tsuneyama in the Canada Open. So that's another point in favour of Momota. I quite like the style of Tsuneyama as well but I was expecting a lot more from him in the World Championship :( But for me, he definitely needs to be in National Team A (if that means he'll have better training and coaches).

    Also do you think Tsuneyama is stronger than Sakai?

    I can't wait to see Momota in the Dutch Open and see him against Wang Tzu Wei, Ajay Jayaram and especially Vittinghus. He'll certainly have to get very serious!!
     
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    Congratulations on winning the Czech International SS.
     
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    Keita Masuda is coaching the B squad so being in the B squad is not a big disadvantage from a coaching point of view.
     
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    Does that mean that only team A player can join Thomas cup?
     
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    The eligibility criteria state that National Team members (both A and B team members) may participate in the following six competitions: Olympic Games, Asian Games, World Championships, Asia Championships, Thomas Cup, Sudirman Cup.

    The same provisions also state that only National Team A members may be entered into international tournaments at the SS level, or above, although, where permission has been granted by the National Team Performance Division, National Team B members may also register.

    Here's the link: https://www.badminton.or.jp/national/rule.html (sorry, Japanese only).
     
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    I guess NTPD should give permission to Momota to participate in all of that given that he is clearly stronger than all the other jap players even when he is not at 100% of his own ability.

    He should make at least Team B though and he needs at least 2nd in All Jap Championships for that.

    Given that the All Jap Championship is in Nov and assuming that Momota win the whole thing. Can he make the cut off in terms of time (integration in National Team) and in terms of points (if he wins Dutch GP and others tournaments) to participate in Dubai World SS im Mid December??
     
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    Anybody know approximately what rank Kento Momota will increase to after winning the Czech open?

    Will Kento be eligible for the qualification rounds in SS after his Czech win or does he need to win one or two more GP tournaments before his ranking is high enough for the qualification round of a SS?
     
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    Being runner-up in the 71st All Japan Championships will make him a member of team A.

    Destination Dubai Ranking points taken from All SuperSeries tournament. If one player never participate in any SS tournament, they would have zero point for Destination Dubai Ranking.
     
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    His points is 11180 + 4000 (winning Czech IC) = 15180
    With that points, Momota will be in rank 110+

    If Momota win the next Dutch GP, he will get 5500 points addition. 15180 + 5500 = 20680 (will be in rank 75+)

    Kento would be eligible for joining SS if he has became a national team member. The fastest possible is starting from January 2018 onward.
     
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    ??? This makes no sense

    Eligibility of SS is dependent on ranking, not whether one is on a national team or not. Are you saying the national Japan team won't let him enter SS unless he is a national team member? The Japan national team not supporting Kento entering the SS is different from Kento not being eligible to enter a SS.

    I don't see the difference between Japan sending him on trips to GP tournaments vs sending him on trips to SS (assuming he has the ranking).

    Also, not all Japanese players enter all SS. Even if Kento is not on the national team, I don't see any reason why the Japan national team would block him from entering a SS if other Japanese players are skipping it.
     
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    That's a rule applied in JPN.

    Somebody also mention that eligibility just 2 posting messages above before you asking it. ;)

    Member of a national team is a must for any JPN players.

    The reason JPN won't send him to a SS is Momota isn't a member of national team yet. Momota probably could only joining Japan SS if he isn't a national team member.
     
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    Oh, I see the comment. Thanks.

    So if Kento makes the national team as a B member, they can still let him enter the SS.

    Interestingly, Kento can pay for himself to enter the SS. But he would probably anger the Japan national team.
     
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    What if a player is not part of the national team - neither A not B.

    Can they enter SS tournaments as a non-national team player?

    Is that a loophole?
     
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    Iirc, momota was already given the green light to participate in international tournament if he fund himself?
     
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    No, the provisions clearly stipulate that SS can only be entered by National Team A members (and, in exceptional cases, Team B members).

    Self-financed, non-national team players can enter lower ranked tournaments under the following condition:
    If they participated in the All Japan Championship (AJC) the previous year, barring cases of injury. (There is an "exception clause" here, allowing participation in lower ranked tournaments if permission is granted by the Director of the National Team Performance Division. This was utilised for Momota, as he was unable to enter last year's AJC due to his suspension from competition.)
     
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    And he could have funded himself as money was not an issue for him.
     
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    ...his opponent was Thomas Rouxel (FRA)

     
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    I don't think the Japan National Badminton association can stop Momota from entering a SS if Momota has the ranking and is willing to self fund his own participation. SS participation is based on ranking, not nationality. Various Indonesian players participate in the SS without the backing of the Indonesian badminton federation.

    Of course Momota will never violate the Japan National Badminton association.
     
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    What's to stop Momota from entering a SS if he has the ranking points and is willing to pay for his own travel and accommodation? SS entry is based on ranking, not nationality. I'm not aware that SS participation requires the permission of the country's national badminton federation. There are a number of Indonesian players that partipcate in SS as independents. Having said that, Momota wouldn't violate the wishes of the Japan National team. He will make the national team again, sooner or later.
     
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    As far as I know, all players in BWF tournaments ARE REGISTERED BY THEIR RESPECTIVE NATIONAL CONFEDERATION
    and this rule is set by BWF itself.

    If you are not aware on the issue on Korean MD and XD retirements last year (Ko Sung Hyun and co.), then you should read some of it. They are available at the Ko Sung Hyun thread, starting from the last 2 pages will be anough
     

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