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Lee Chong Wei is now No. 1

Discussion in 'Malaysia Professional Players' started by hoiboy79, Aug 21, 2008.

  1. HaoFung

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    more max fixing debates..

    just for the ppls claiming about physical exertion and mental exertion... players are given over 36 hours to rest and for athletes that train at least 8 hours a day, 6 days a week... with 2 nights of sleep and resting, dont use their effort as an excuse to their explain later performance especially when most of them actually train lightly the next day to help sore muscles recover pretty much like how Micheal Phelps swims right after his races

    also if tennis players can endure 3 hours + games and then do the same thing the next day im pretty sure that badminton players can do the same

    LCW wasnt exhausted during his game against LD, he was completly lost and confused facing someone he didnt see in a lil while which has improved so much and in terms of determination, LD had a lot more.
     
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    I am sad to see that this good forum of badminton always flood with im-mature fans, who have a habit of accusing whoever beat their favourite players with disgraceful grounds, like cheating, match-fixing... instead of reviewing the matches from technical points of view for the sake of the sports of badminton.

    Badminton would be killed by this kind of fans, not by BWF, not by LYB, not be anyone else.

    For the sport of badminton to flourish and enjoy more coverage in the world, we need some stardom like other sports such as tennis and golf.

    Like it or not, LD does bring more excitement and made badminton more spectacular than LCW. So pls do not disgrace any players by un-sound means, as long as they win on the court by rackets, not by guns or money.
     
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    ok...we know zn is the match fixing champion in athens...by this year...u can make sure lyb will not say that in london(admit match fixing between ld and cj)???;)
     
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    In Athens,only those at courtside could see the match so the damage was limited. For Beijing,badminton coverage was pretty extensive,both in terms of airtime and worldwide TV audience, so the damage would be significant in the minds of many,many more badminton fans.(SS and WC tournament coverage are also relatively limited) (In tennis, they are quick to act on such match behaviour.Eg,Davydenko was hauled up for grilling on suspicion of 'not trying hard enough!' I'm not sure whether it's in the tennis rules but they can see the potential damage to tennis if it's not fixed promptly.Tennis fans would not stand for the kind of nonsense seen here in badminton.)
     
  5. bananakid

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    The way LCW lost to LD, I would question that there might be some fixing of the match there as even Ng Wei gave LD a much harder time.:rolleyes: Would you like me to send you the link to download the match between LD and Ng Wei?;)
     
  6. Dato A

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    It is hard for some badminton fans to listen to the truth.
     
  7. XtC-604

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    yea? it didn't even matter, LIN DAN HAMMERED LEE CHONG WEI. LIKE DESTROYED OUT OF THIS WORLD. 18-4 at one point? I bet you LD gave LCW those last few points too. LCW should be LD's slave now to repay LD for not humuliating him as much.
     
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    Wow. humiliating? It's a shame to play against CHN player whose tolerance with MATCH FIXING ARRANGEMENT.
     
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    oh, don't forget the LD versus peter gade match too. Gade_supporter had created a thread just to make this point, that peter gade gave LD a much harder time and taken more points from LD than LCW did against LD. He said peter should be a bronze or a silver medalist. Maybe PG versus LD match was fixed too, lol. According to pjswift, those longer rallies between LD and PG aren't really energy intensive, just some long but low energy rallies, lol.

    LD beat PG, 21-13, 21-16 /45 mins
    LD beat lcw 21-12, 21-8 / 41 mins
     
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    Yao Ming , Liu Xiang??
     
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    LD feared playing LCW more than playing PG at the 2008 Beijing Olympic Games

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    IMHO, LD feared playing LCW more than playing PG at the 2008 Beijing Olympic Games. And because of this, LD allowed PG "more breathing space".

    But when LD played LCW, LD went 'All Out'. That's why the match between LCW and LD was shorter (although by not much, just 4 minutes).

    Unfortunately for PG's fans, PG was not seeded higher (because of his unfortunate injury). Otherwise, PG could , IMHO, win a medal as well.

    :):):)
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    "ALL OUT" against LCW... yeah LD did do that, but that was not even necessary at all.

    Would you like me to send you the link to download the PG vs LD match?

    In that match, Gade was playing well... even better than LCW was.
    LD was much faster than Gade just like LD was much faster than LCW was, but Gade adapted to it, and therefore gave LD a tougher time. If Gade could've retained his composure in the second half of the second set, he could've taken the second set... but of course he didn't.:crying:

    There were times in the match where Gade had LD frozen with his deceptive shots... I didn't see any of that by LCW at all.:rolleyes: may be 1 cross court smash at 7-2 in the first set, and that's about it.:rolleyes:
     
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    This implies that you're one of those who think that PG deserved the medal more than Lee CW?:confused:
     
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    LCW to compete as World No.1 in the Japan Open 2008, Tokyo Sept 16-21

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    News article from The Star Online today, Sunday 7-Sep-2008: click here

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    Badminton: Lee’s missions

    By RAJES PAUL

    KUALA LUMPUR: National shuttler Lee Chong Wei has never won a title when ranked as world No. 1.

    He has a chance to set the record straight when he competes in the Japan Open, which will be held in Tokyo from Sept 16-21.

    [​IMG] Chong Wei: Has held to the No. 1 spot for a second consecutive week.

    In 2006, Chong Wei took part in the Macau Open as the top seed and the world No. 1 but failed to justify his status when he lost to China’s Lin Dan in the final.

    His coach Datuk Misbun Sidek, however, is looking beyond the Japan Open.

    Misbun wants Chong Wei to be the first Malaysian player to maintain his world No. 1 ranking for a long time, although he knows it won’t be easy.

    His former charges – Rashid Sidek and Mohd Roslin Hashim –also reached the No. 1 spot but only for a brief spell.

    Chong Wei, he said, would have to work hard on two areas of his game if he wanted to extend his stay at the top spot, which had been dominated by Olympic champion Lin Dan for about two years.

    “Not only must Chong Wei be able to handle the pressure that I will put on him in training but he must also improve his physical condition,” said Misbun at Stadium Juara in Bukit Kiara yesterday.

    “It is good that Chong Wei has held on to the No. 1 spot for a second consecutive week. But it is important that he maintains it for a longer period. It will be difficult to climb up the ladder again if he drops down the rankings.”

    Misbun was all smiles when talking about Chong Wei’s attitude towards training, although the shuttler had been kept busy with so many functions since returning as the silver medallist from the Beijing Olympic Games.

    “He is not at his best physical condition. He is still tired. But I admire his spirit. He has been demanding for more in training. The pace of training will pick up from Monday,” said Misbun.

    “It is a delight to see Chong Wei handling all this (the fame after winning the silver medal for the first time in 12 years for the country) very well. He is humble.”

    At the Japan Open, defending champion Chong Wei’s first real test will come in the quarter-finals against Simon Santoso of Indonesia. Also in the same half with the Malaysian is another Indonesian, Taufik Hidayat.

    In the lower half are second seed Sony Dwi Kuncoro of Indonesia, China’s Chen Yu and Peter Gade-Christensen of Denmark.

    ====== * ====== end article ====== * ======

    Could it be a LCW vs PG Final ?

    :):):)
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    No... this ONLY implies that I think Peter Gade played better than LCW did during the Olympics. Plus Lin Dan did play at a higher level than usual while playing against both Gade and LCW. That's all.

    Yet, too much assumption and imagination on your part...
     
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    The highlighted part is absolutely funny... if the ranking points has not made any kind of adjustment(may be except for some really low ranking players) since there had not been a REAL tournament in the last couple of weeks, then of course LCW can keep his ranking for a total of "2" weeks.:rolleyes: It takes no effort on LCW's part, and the comment is nothing more than a joke.

    “It is a delight to see Chong Wei handling all this (the fame after winning the silver medal for the first time in 12 years for the country) very well. He is humble.”

    The first Hong Kong Olympics GOLD medalist in history probably didn't receive as much fame for winning the gold compare to LCW with a silver. :rolleyes:
     
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    Is it a mistake for LCW to elect to play when LD elects not to play?

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    Is it a mistake for LCW to elect to play when LD elects not to play?

    :D:D:D bananakid ... Very surprised in what you have mentioned in your last post.

    Everyone here at Badminton Central knows that the World Ranking is based on the points gained by players when they have played well when participating in tournaments. When players elect not to participate, they get "Love Point".

    Look at the coming Japan 2008, LD has decided not to participate. LD has elected to not to gain points again.

    So why do we have to ridicule LCW? :confused::confused::confused:

    LCW will move further up in points. And he will be World No.1 for a longer period.

    Are you suggesting that LCW should not participate whenever LD is not participating?

    There are many
    higher ranked players in the world who could be beaten by lower ranked players. Should we be ridiculing all these higher ranked players?

    :):):)
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    I don't know if it is my poor English, or something else is wrong here... but somehow you completely misunderstood my post.

    All that I said was that there had not been a tournament between end of Olympics and NOW(September 7th, 2008 Canada time), so of course LCW could have maintained his #1 spot since nobody's ranking point has changed, but then Misbun made it sound like it was nice that LCW could have kept it for two weeks(which nothing had happened at all)... Does this clarify things at all? or do I need to explain again?:confused:
     
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    Misbun should know that the rankings would only go up/down in tournaments

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    Sorry bananakid ... You are correct. There is something wrong here with the word "week". :D

    Actually, I read it as It is good that Chong Wei has held on to the No. 1 spot for a second consecutive tournament".

    Sometimes I don't read by the words, but by the ideas. :eek:

    I am quite sure that the reporter has made a typo. I am sure that Misbun was saying that he's glad that LCW can hold on to "the No.1 spot for a second consecutive tournament"; Because he went to say "But it is important that he maintains it for a longer period. It will be difficult to climb up the ladder again if he drops down the rankings.”

    Misbun should know that the rankings would only go up/down in tournaments, and that the weekly rankings would not change if there are no tournaments played.

    :):):)
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    All that can be done is whine, cry & doubt but that won't change historical facts - TH, a one-time WC & OC and LD, a 3-time AEC, 2-time WC & current OC. And these two players have brought much international media interest to badminton. Go look & read the recent Time mag., these are probably the only 2 badminton players whom Time mag think there is space worth their mention. It's time, B'cers come out of the box and be subjective.
     

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