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Liew Daren

Discussion in 'Malaysia Professional Players' started by TheSmasherKing, Apr 21, 2011.

  1. nkt0811

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    Daren need to work hard on consistency and defence, looks like he need to play daily match with LCW during training sessions in order to improve instead of do sparring...
     
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    it looks like the french open is a one-off achievement for the late boomer daren liew....

    either that or chen long is just physically too strong for him...

    i would like to think it is the latter but it's hard to see anyone beat top chinese singles players

    CHN has the best singles players in big numbers and KOR has the best doubles players in big numbers... it's a proven FACT...
     
  3. pajrul

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    but but but.....
    not a single korean doubles no matter what type, got through to the HK tournament
    what happened there?

    only one ms is from China... got through the semi's of HK tournament

    or maybe you mean women's singles?


     
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    this time, its arif time to shine... first it was DL, then CWF and its arif turn now, though he lost...
     
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    LDR needs to be very consistent in order to have more chances to play against top players like CL and CJ......so he would improves faster....
     
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    if they three keep up improving, the next Thomas Cup (2014) will have hope to get points instead rely only to LCW...
     
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    Really hope 1 day we don't need to pressure dato' anymore
     
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    Yeah, let him enjoy his married life.
     
  9. julianng

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    the KOR doubles pairs don't like this tournament venue maybe...

    as for CHN singles, 'the great chinese gangster' is not playing here, and DPY, WZM are taking a short break... lol
     
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    what can be done?

    What can be done to rectify Liew's error-riddled game? He has speed, he has a backhand like LCW, he moves well (he has to, he practices with LCW) but it seems all this goodies are like water contained in a cup riddled with plenty of holes at the side. Does he need to slow down his pace when his error starts to show up anytime like an annoying 'arthritis 'during the game? Or is it his lack of concentration? Is it his lack of will to win? What is actually going through his mind during crucial stages of winning a point?

    If Liew's handling of his concentration or the lack of thereof does not improve, then I would say he has no other choice then to slow down his pace, or should I say, vary his pace. It seems that Liew's pace is although fast, but it doesn't vary. Over time, opponents will get used to his game. Unlike, LCW or LD who although play at blistering pace, they vary their them, stepping it up when necessary to win a point.

    To highlight this is the recent World SSF 2nd game against Vittinghus. Liew's game was more composed and calculated, as compared to his fast pace 1st game that was riddled with 'out's.

    But then again, Vittinghus was already through to the SF when he won the 1st game, and Liew knew he was already bundled out. So both had excuses to not commit 100% and just plodder on casually. But the fact remains that Liew's game has always been 'consistently inconsistent'. If the TSB and Rashid do not see this as separate problem that needs to be dealt with, I'm afraid Liew's days will be pathetically lukewarm, which is pitiful because I like his backhand service. Compared with Chong Wei Feng, it does seem that Chong is the more hardworking of the two doesn't it? For a start to remedy the situation, Liew should start with improving his concentration, like playing the traditional girl's game at home of 'picking up sticks'.:D

    As with Liew's duel with Chen Long, it was no walk in the park. To win against a player like CL, not only do you need a lethal attacking game, you also need retrieving abilities. This was evidently shown in a lot of points won by LCW against CL when CL was frustrated at LCW's retrieving abilities, scampering and diving all over the court. This year's Malaysian Open was such an example. Of course you can't dive as much just fresh off from his recent marriage but that is another thread.

    To sum it up, Liew's coaches need to work out what makes Liew's mind tick in a match. Also this is where a sports psychologist will come into play and I don't know if BAM still has them around.
     
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    Pakito,, sooooo long essay, lol. Ever since Frederick Tan went to Penang and no longer attached to Sports Science Institute, MS in Msia lack sports psy, suitable one that is. They got one for KKK/TBH, a Westerner, problem is, I wonder how he communicate effectively with TBH. LCW said before he like Frederick cos can speak chinese, esp his native hokkien, so can fully understand.
     
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    If not mistaken, Limsy can speak many languages and dialects. Hehe.
     
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    BAM frankly needs a sports psy like gangnam psy, bold and intuitive enought to carve a winning attitude from uncut diamonds.

    Aah yes, I forgot you like it short. :rolleyes:
     
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    well
    he doesnt have it in him.
     
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    Knocked out of group stage in National GP Finals after losing to Misbun Ramdan Misbun, causing Misbun Jr. to top the group instead. Korea SSP next for Daren.
     
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    zulfadli beat chan kwong beng (although he retired at the end)
    while liew daren knocked out by ramdan
    only chong wei feng left
     
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    Don't worry. I expect him to keep losing for the next few months. Normal symptoms for young players as more players would have analyse his games in more details after his title in Paris.

    He will pick up again after he worked out what goes wrong in some part of his game. To be honest, he play better than what I expect him to be so far.

    Ohh, and sorry to be harsh for once Daren: Before you fix the lame stamina of yours and put more hours in your physical conditioning, you can kiss goodbye to your chance of breaking into top 10.
     
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    You know, its funny....they call Daren Liew a late boomer, basically an excuse to fail now and in hope that there is potential to be realized in the future. But if you look at this objectively, the guy is like 26 next year and he is ranked 16th in the world? LCW was considered a late boomer due to the fact that most Chinese players peak around the age of 21-25, as can be seen with LD, ChunLai, Chen Jin and Chen Long now. However, at the age of 25-26, LCW has already established himself as a top 2-3 player in the world and the same cannot be said with Daren Liew.

    Currently, the guy is in no touching distance at all to be a top 5 player in the world, its just a sad cold truth and time might be running out for him soon. The burden of living in the shadows of LCW might have been curse, but with the correct setup and guts, that didnt stop Chen Long from picking up the mantle from LD did it?
     
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    Why should we compare a legend of Malaysian badminton and Liew Daren?
     
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    I don't think late bloomer is all that bad but time is running out for Darren. Although many Chinese players get to the top young, they don't last that long and many(or most) retire by their late 20's.

    Hendrawan was a player who came good mid-career. So did Poul-Erik Hoyer-Larsen. Not sure if late bloomers are more difficult to come across under the new scoring system.
     
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