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Light but multifaceted for beginners?

Discussion in 'Racket Recommendation / Comparison' started by birgit, May 10, 2006.

  1. birgit

    birgit Regular Member

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    I want to buy an orderly racket that's very light but still rather good at control and so on. Not to expensive, still I want quality.

    Any suggestions?
     
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    light racket.

    Karakal any model number range from 70-85 is super light.
    they are not expensive.
    their model number = weight e.g. 70=70g

    http://www.karakal.com/products/badminton_products.html?cat=Racket
    all 2006 models are nano graphite now.
    i m using their older models with the short shaft, oval shape.
    i donno pricing, but for sure cheaper than YYs.
     
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    What about Yonex Isometric 75 MFLT? The thing is that I live in Sweden, and the range isn't that big here.
     
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    The MP30 could be a decent investment.
     
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    Wow...:eek: , Karakal has a 70g racket?:confused: I've got to get me one of those.:D
    Where can I buy one? any links or shops?

    My 77g racket is fast, but with a 70g...super defense.

    Anyone got any pics of what the racket looks like?:)
     
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    Not necessarily. I played with this racket for a year; although its lightness made it maneuverable, its head-heavy balance slowed it down.

    It's far less maneuverable than my At-800 DE, for example, despite being 10 grams+ lighter.

    http://www.karakal.com/products/popup.html?code=KB350&colour=0000FF
     
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    I clicked on your link and my explorer just shuts down! Does the site have a virus or worm? I got to see the picture for a few seconds, Orange color and oval head. It has the weight at 70-75g.

    My current racket is 73-77g, so actually 2g difference at the high end.
    If they can make it 66g-70g, that would be truely light. Still worth a look.
     
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    i have 2 x discontinued SL-TI80 short shaft/oval, even balance. 80g. mid flex very durable. breaks several other players rackets but not mine :rolleyes:, sorry guys. accidents happens.
    owned and sold my TI-75 short shaft/oval, even balance. 75g. very stiff and thick shaft. very durable as well.

    seems like u r a fan of kason. what kason model do u recommend that has the following spec: 3U=85g or less, even balance, stiff and long shaft, iso head, muscle power frame preferred.
     
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    I have a Kason TSF 100 Ti, it's 3U, 85g, very similiar to the Yonex Ti-10.
    Also has the muscle power frame. I use it in tournaments mostly.

    For the stiff shaft, I have the Kason TSF 200. Rarely have the chance to use it. Only if I get to play against someone like Howard Bach.

    The regular racket or all around racket is the Kason Carvel U3, ultra-light, 77g, medium flex. Plays very will with my speed and control.

    I'm an advanced player so, smashing at beginners and intermediate players is a no-no, so I use light rackets to practice control & defense.
     
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    You could always give the Black Knight Superlight line a try as well, lots of players at my club uses them, they're 75 grams.
     
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    Is that racket a square-iso type head or oval head?
     
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    I bought the ISO75MFLT but found it a little heavy headed so exchanged for Cab8600. Both are 3U but the 8600 is more agile with decent power. It is pretty durable too.
     
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    Check the official black knight website, www.blackknight.ca There are 3 racquets in the superlight series. 1 that's oval and long, 1 that has all of their technology, Vibraplate technology + Power Channel, and the other has only Power channel. Their stiffness differs also i believe between the last 2.
     
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    Beginners lack power. A light racket will give them less power. Less power will keep them as beginners for years to come.

    Best thing to do is get a heavier racket with even balance and low string tension. Then you can hit the shuttle to the baseline of your beginner opponent, and he will have no way of returning it back to you without collapsing into a heap of heavy breathing mass. With the power sorted out, you can then improve other areas of your game while your beginner opponent stay a beginner and wondering why he can't imrpove as much as you can, and resign to the fact that just as the experts have told him, his technique is bad.
     
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    It's a pop-up window, so I guess your browser killed it.

    Either disable your pop-up blocker or navigate the site yourself: www.karakal.com
     
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    I await the sh*tstorm that typically occurs when someone suggests equipment can substitute for good technique ;)

    Although no racket will allow you to overcome bad technique, a beginner using a very light racket will probably be at a disadvantage for the reason that CoolDoo6 describes. It will be better for him to use a heavier racket (say, 90-100g).
     
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    The Karakal SL70 is definitely not light in the normal sense. It feels a lot heavier than my Ti-10's. If you are looking for a fast swinging racket, SL70 is not it.
     
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    That's because it is very head-heavy. The racket balance is much more important than the racket weight. The SL-70, although somewhat maneuverable due to its weight, is much more cumbersome than a heavier, evenly balanced racket.
     
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    Choose one of theese that are a great choice for beginners. Cause theese are the only ones I can choose from buying on the net in Sweden.

    Babolat
    Babolat Booster Max
    Babolat Booster Ti

    Forza
    Forza Titanium 6
    Forza Kevlar 5
    Forza Aisa Amour 10 000

    Carlton
    Carlton Powerblade Carbon TT
    Carlton Powerblade Titanium
    Carlton Powerblade
    Carlton Powerblade C-700

    Prince
    Prince More +87
    Prince Graphite Drive

    Wilson
    Wilson V14 Quad

    Yonex
    Yonex Armortec 150
    Yonex Muscle Power 29
    Yonex Muscle Power 23
    Yonex Muscle Power 21
    Yonex Isometric 75 MFLT
    Yonex Isometric 65 LT
    Yonex Isometric 23 VF
     
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    Muscle power 21 is a flexible heavy 2U racket. This should give you good power. If you don't get enough power from the factory string, try restring to a lower tension, starting from 15LBs using cheaper Yonex BG65 or BG63. Once you know your ideal tension, retring to the expensive Ashaway MicroLegend XL to the same tension. Instantly you will become a super beginner who will overpower all other beginners in your vicinity.
     

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