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Looking to form group for SAT noon @ Bishan Branch Office/Sports Hall

Discussion in 'Singapore' started by inbox, Aug 15, 2012.

  1. inbox

    inbox Regular Member

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    :crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:

    Currently we have 2 ppl and we are just average players. All ages are welcome! :)

    Level of play: High Beginner - Low Intermediate

    Time: Preferably 2-4pm

    If interested kindly pm me or reply here. If there are enough people we can try to book and play weekly, thanks.
     
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    We can host it if you guys would not mind:)

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    Thanks for your kind attention. However, we will like to keep it a small group (abt 4-6) by sharing the overall cost.

    Third party organizer generally tend to charge much higher so as to pay off the effort. But, Thanks anyway :)

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    Updated, now we have 3. Few more to go....
     
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    Sure, happy organising:D

    Just to let you know a bit more, our session have been on going for some time and throughout the years those who charge low or by sharing the overall cost had either increase the fees or disappeared:)
     
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    Me, me interested to join you. PM you liao. :D
     
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    base on my few years playing in singapore, the average for 2 hours with 8 person should be SGD 4, SGD 5 for 6 person on peak hour.
    Place like bishan branch office will be even cheaper.
    Some people charge up to SGD 7 or SGD 8, it is really too much unless it is at SBH.
    I seen a lot of ppl here like to organise many session for free play for themselve and some even make money from organising. Personally I felt that to make money from your own friend is not so right, but some ppl here may not agreed with me. It's ok.
     
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    Just to share with you guy, I have a friend playing at CSC every sat, they are paying only SGD 25 per months. Every sessions about 10 hours for about 20 persons. Holiday extra game no additional charge. Heard they are playing there for more than 5 years.
     
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    Sure. No worries :)

    Don worry i have no doubt about you or any third party organizer and we are not thinking of lowing the cost nor overcharge. Fair and just will do.

    Moreover its common for ppl to come and go too, just like you won't be wearing the same pants forever too right. :D Cheers!

     
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    Absolutely! Agree.. I felt that some (not pointing to any particular) really went overboard with the price, which i feel abuse/insult this beautiful game. Simple mathematics can draw out the potential difference and deter many beginners to even approach this sports :(

    Replied your pm :)

     
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    It's willing buyer even if the fee seems exorbitant. I know a group that levy $3 for an evening session at a cc on weekdays. My friend's group whom I joined occassionately play at which ever available cc on saturdays can manage $4 per person. I think the organiser's objective for those groups is not to make money and hence a fair fee.
     
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    It think it is very nice if the group of ppl share the cost evenly.
    Let me do some simple calcultion:
    If I book 4 courts at SBH for 2 hours each. Total court fee is SGD 9.6 (after membership discount for outside court) x 2 hours x 4 courts = SGD 76.8

    Let's say I get 8 person per court and I charge SGD 10 each person, total amount I collected will be SGD 10 x 8 person x 4 courts = SGD 320
    If I use 4 tube of shuttles and total cost is SGD 80.00

    I can earn SGD 320 - SGD 80 - SGD 76.8 = 163.20


    If I organise 2 times per week, 4 weeks I will make SGD 163.20 x 2 times x 4 weeks = 1305.60 per/4week
    1 year I will make SGD 16,972.80

    Convert to RM will be RM 42,432.00
     
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    Exactly... Peeps pls open your eyes and judge whether the amount is fair. Do not allow these "evil merchant" to grim and smirk behind you!
     
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    Actually this is what Lyefam mentioned it is willing buyer and willing seller.
    But I do believed that as friend, we should play together, share together. not taking advantage on each others. We should not make money on friend unless you are living on something like insurance, property, or even taxi dirver.

    For what you are doing, I really respect you from my heart!
    Keep up the good work and hope more ppl will do the same like you.
     
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    Wah!.......the profit sibei power lol

    Hi sim2peter, thanks for the calculation, now have a clearer picture of how ppl use this to make $$.

     
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    I think the calculation is a bit over simplified and the costing is not quite accurate especially on the cost of shuttles. Cheap shuttles don't last and you won't get 32 players willing to pay $10 week in week out.

    Want to earn a profit from orgainsing is possible but it would not be lucrative as illustrated. Not sure how the final figure in RM is relevant to a Singaporean organiser.

    The main point is clear
     
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    I am a simple person and can only do simple calculation.
    What are the cost involve?
    Only courts and shuttle. May be some of you want to add in the bus fare, electricity bill for internet booking, water or drink? I don't know how to calculate on all those costs. Too complicated for me.
    If you go round to see what shuttle they ues normally, you should know how much is the shuttle. How many really use more than SGD 30 per tube shuttle?
    Many of them even went to malaysia to buy shuttle. If you guy don't believe, please calculate how many shuttle used and how much is the total cost at the end of the game.
    I can guarantee you my calculation is already over estimate.
    I convert to RM is because I am from Malaysia, as simple as that, the amount of money may not attractive to most of the singaporean but not to me.

    For SGD 10 /game, you can see very common in SBH, I know many group is playing there. Their court is generally higher than other courts.

    To make thing simple, we can make a comparison between the 2 groups. You can see some group is charging SGD 8 each for 10 hours booking for 26 person. But on the other hand, some one can charge only SGD 4 each for 10 hours booking for 20 person.
    What is the reason behind?
    Please enlighten.
     
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    This is not the platform to debate on who is right or wrong. We are in here to share good lobangs on everything about badminton.

    Let's show some respect to the thread setter (inbox) for this topic by not hijacking his purpose of posting here. You might want to post a new thread on the topic you feel strongly about.

    Thank you for sharing your illustration of the methodology of a profiteering organiser.
     
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    Hmm, sounds like the famous Singapore style of complaining working here.

    If a person is price sensitive, then don't bother with the more expensive place. It's simple. Why keep whining about it? Go to a cheaper place. If not, then no option except give up. That's simple choice to make.

    I agree that this has become off topic and I will delete further posts on the subject of pricing.
     
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    As a moderator should respect this is a forums place for ppl to discuss about any thing unless he dont't fit to do the job! As long as it don't hurt any one, it should be freely speak up!!!
     

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