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LYB interview: On WMC's win, line judging, etc. (WARNING: cool down b4 reading this)

Discussion in 'Vietnam Open / China Open (2) 2007' started by Inky2000, Nov 25, 2007.

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  1. Inky2000

    Inky2000 Regular Member

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    For those who read Chinese,
    http://sports.sina.com.cn/o/2007-11-25/19243317666.shtml
    Provoking ... you are warned!

    Major points,

    Only 2 titles?
    - Hectic tournament schedule doesn't do "veteran" players good, so CY/FHF, ZN, XXF failed.
    - New scoring system makes the sport more unpredictable
    - May skip some events, e.g., Grand Prix finals, without jeopardizing OG qualification
    - Since May 1 this year (beginning of OG qualification period), we have never trained for 35 consecutive days. If we skip some events, we will earn a precious 35-day period to concentrate on training.

    On WMC's win
    - She improved a lot in this year. Her attacks are not as "obvious" (i.e., good) as CHN players but that is compensated by her fast movements.
    - It's hard to beat her if CHN players don't have BOTH the stamina and the power.

    XXF lost because of pressure and lack of determination?
    - No, she just didn't have the stamina to complete the match today
    - I don't blame her. This is just the unpredictability of the sport under the new scoring sys

    Controversy in line judging?
    (note: LYB is digging out the history.)
    [1] In this aspect, we the CHN team has been suffering the most, especially when we are in S. Korea. Bingyi and I 'lost to the judges' in the MD final at Seoul AG. Some of the line judges later became their national players, e.g., Ha Tae Kwon. We didn't know the truth for many years until Ha & co. told us what they had done to us.
    [2] We suffered the problems many times (e.g., at World Jr this year at KL) but we have never quit any tournament in the name of sportsmanship. It's hard to prevent disputes between players and judges, but we should respect the judges more. In managing CHN team, I've been reinforcing this (to my players). We are a civilized country. Our audience is friendly. Our judges have high quality.
    [3] Player challenges judge like what happened today - totally unacceptable! If this happens in some other sports, the consequence will be severe. The badminton sport doesn't do well in this aspect - judges' dignity has not been protected.
     
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    LYB is shooting some sheet as usual la. Its always him and his big mouth.
     
  3. MaLaYsIa Boleh!

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    [3] Player challenges judge like what happened today - totally unacceptable! If this happens in some other sports, the consequence will be severe. The badminton sport doesn't do well in this aspect - judges' dignity has not been protected.

    wat the..
    he say like his china player nvr do this before..
    if he say tat he suffering the most, then he should knw to overcome this problem..
    this mean tat he is juz making a revenge for wat he suffered before..
    is this call fair?
    he think like he is right but his words tell us tat he juz wan revenge for wat happen to them before..
     
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    extremenanopowe Regular Member

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    Looks like he's the main man at the moment taking the limelight. Hope he is enjoying it.
     
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    Cool!!!

    Him mentioning what happen in S.korea means that he has the INTENTION to REVENGE!!! He is really the Terrorist of Badminton World.
     
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    Im glad its WMC who gave him a big slap this time. Nah, take this!
     
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    u r right

    damn him :mad::mad::mad:
     
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    [1] In this aspect, we the CHN team has been suffering the most, especially when we are in S. Korea. Bingyi and I 'lost to the judges' in the MD final at Seoul AG. Some of the line judges later became their national players, e.g., Ha Tae Kwon. We didn't know the truth for many years until Ha & co. told us what they had done to us.
    lyb says that like his china team suffer the most..
    how about other country??
    MALAYSIA??THAILAND??INDONESIA??
    he think they din suffer b4 lk that situation....
     
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    the answer to this? PETITION PETITION PETITION!!!!!

    http://www.petitiononline.com/bwfpet/petition.html

    two wrongs dont make a right.... this should stop now!

    What Li has said was that he confirmed the fact that linejudges are bribed. He should be banned... Just because Korea did it long time ago (i'm not saying they did, can someone enlighten me on this?) dosen't make it correct. Shameful. Trying to find excuses....

    and what the hell? It is wrong to challenge umpires? Hell, the match referee is there so that when an umpire is challenged, he steps in! LYB, disgraceful, shameful. I spit on you.
     
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    Another Chinese report,
    http://sports.sina.com.cn/o/2007-11-25/18493317634.shtml

    An account of the controversies during the tournament,

    (1) GZD/XZB vs. JJS/LYD
    More than 10 times of dispute ... the calls were all in favor of CHN. It can't be so coincident that KOR misjudged for more than 10 times. Still, they SHOULD NOT quit the match because of that.

    (2) PSH vs. BCL
    PSH received a yellow card ... he deserved it because when he made an error, he threw his racquet, kicked the shuttle to BCL's court and crash himself to the net. Too emotional.

    (3) CH conceived walkover
    The OG rankings don't look good to CHN at the moment. CHN wants 4 players to be among top-4 for obvious reason. Now only LD makes it. With LD being eliminated, CHN desperately needs BCL to win the title. So CH just did his ex-teammate and the country a favor.

    (4) THA XD pair vs. XZB/ZYW
    At the match point, THA player complained to the empire that XZB's act (raising both arms in front of the net) has distracted the game. The game halted for 5 minutes but THA eventually made it.

    (5) LCW vs. BCL
    LCW's agony was MORE REASONABLE than the earlier scenes. He threw his racquet twice in the match - in both occasions, the slow motion on TV showed that BCL's shots were "out" and yet the line judges said otherwise ... The final scores do not reflect LCW's real strength.
    As the CCTV commenter has said, "BCL is in form today. We shouldn't and don't need to win the match in this way!"

    So what about Beijing OG? Korean coach Li Mao argued that the situation will improve as the empires and judges won't be assigned by one association.

    BTW, WMC is now touted by Chinese media as "the nemesis of CHN team" ...

    http://sports.sina.com.cn/o/2007-11-25/16043317455.shtml
     
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    There is always a vested interest when it comes in home games. Too bad lor.
     
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    IS NOT TOO BAD... IS VERY BAD

    never i seen such biased refering in any other sportsss!

    They can even send a kid from the street to beat LCW with this kind of help!
     
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    he is king there mah. what to do? someone will taruh him when he come here. hehe.
     
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    (4) THA XD pair vs. XZB/ZYW
    At the match point, THA player complained to the empire that XZB's act (raising both arms in front of the net) has distracted the game. The game halted for 5 minutes but THA eventually made it.

    this is totally a lie..
    i heard the umpire call fault on sudket for raising his hand in front of the net and not XZB, it should be sudket complaining abt why he get fault..
    i also don't knw why sudket get fault as he look like not doing anything wrong..
     
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    That doesnt happen when other countries host SS. So in other words, just because China is "superpower" of badminton, doesnt mean they can manipulate. Anyway, the great wall is cracking, hole getting bigger.
     
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    A coach shouting "break his leg" is totally unacceptable and is even more despicable. A coach that buy out the whole team of "lies" man and judge is totally despicable and a 100% pure coward. If this happens in football in Europe, LYB head will be smashed & bleed to death by now. Judges who cannot be fair is not a real judge so what's there to protect is only his head and his life.

    I believe sooner or later someone or god will have to shut his mouth forever. This filthiest scumbag in the most despicable living creature on planet earth at this moment.
     
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    i hope when LYB comes to Malaysia, or Indonesia, or whereever, the fans will BOOO him loudly when he comes out!
     
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    Hahaha… seems LYB has become no.1 enemy of badminton.
     
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    stupid la him!!!he's always like this!something like if non-China's players win the match against the China's player ,he will be telling a lot of reasons such as China's players are tired in the match or don't have enough energy and a lot of rubbish reasons!!!but if non-China's player lose to China's players,he won't be saying the non-China's player are tired or what...his reasons for those non-China's players are due to the skill's problem...
    haiz...i totally dislike him!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    True. I saw that part too. Sudket and Saralee were explaining and complaining to the tournment referee. Sudket raised his arms as a dummy act before taking the shot.
    In the replay, it was shown that his arms are far away from the net, therefore not a fault.

    Even the GD Sports commentator said softly that "normally if the arms over the net then only its a fault." Saralee was demonstrating that to the umpire and tournament referee, defending her partner. The umpire stuck to his decision and Guo/Yawen were given a point for the supposed fault.

    Sudket was visibly upset. Thank goodness they were at match point when it happened cos Sudket dared not play near the net after that, he let Saralee take the front court shots.
     
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