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Malaysia Boleh Spirits

Discussion in 'Chit-Chat' started by Dato A, May 15, 2008.

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  1. ctjcad

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    Off topic-Since you guys mentioned it..

    ..if you guys haven't seen it, you guys should see the video link i posted (on page 61, post #1023) of the "Sky is Falling" thread-->as it relates to the American type of government and what makes it what the country it is. Guess where America is now heading towards??..
     
  2. OneToughBirdie

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    Maybe it would be wise for any 52 yr old nation to pick and learn what made a 200+ yr old nation successful and ditch the part that did not work. In USA and in Canada, generally speaking, the opportunity to succeed whether in school or in business, the best mind wins regardless of race.
     
  3. Loh

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    It is true of what you said. Only the Malays and others who have studied Malay could really understand the Malay language because while Malay is one of the official languages, it is not in common use. And most of us would agree that in order to be proficient in a language, regular practice is necessary.

    The common languages used in Singapore is English and Mandarin, but English is the dominant business language unless one does business with China, in which case much Mandarin would be used. And this is of tremendous advantage to Singapore since we are able to transact business with many of the world's major economic powers, including China and India.

    However, the general proficiency level of our students in Mandarin is only about GCE 'O' level which must be considered at best to be just passable and those who wish to do business in China would do well to pursue the language at a higher level. Gifted students are given an opportunity to study Higher Chinese in schools.

    And to maintain an interest in Malay, I understand that courses are offered by the government to non-Malays to study as a third language just as those who are interested in the major European languages like German, French, Spanish and Asian ones like Japanese. In general much effort must be put in to be able to master three languages in schools. :rolleyes:

    With neighbours like Indonesia and Malaysia using a closely-related language like Bahasa Indonesia and Malay, it makes a lot of sense for Singapore to take a keener interest in the study of this language. Especially for those considering to do business with Indonesia, one of the most populous countries in the world.

    And I think precisely because we have to consider the 'feelings' of our two close neighbours that our early leaders found it fit to include Malay as Singapore's national language although in practice, Malay is hardly used and understood. However, the older generation of Singaporeans perhaps were more adept at speaking 'pasar' Malay than the present generation. ;)

    The circumstances under which Singapore had to leave Malaysia perhaps made it 'politically expedient' to do so since tiny Singapore's survival means having to make peace with and be a friend to all, especially with our much bigger neighbours. :)
     
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    Caution Advised

    It'd be best if we steered our discussions away from these topics:
    Politics, Religion, Income, S e x, Origins (Race) and Nationality
    (An apt mnemonic for these dispute-ridden subjects is P-R-I-S-O-N ;))

    Freedom of speech is, of course, in public interest.
    But 'public interest' doesn't mean what interests the public.
    Rather, it has more to do with what benefits the public.

    Discussions and debates on these issues never end in agreement.
    Nor do they progress to an informative, lively exchange of views.
    If anything, they end in a trading of verbal blows and a lot of rancour.

    As such, they are quite unlikely to benefit either us or the forum.
    If anyone must continue, please feel free to join these communities.

    Back to Malaysia Boleh, please :)
     
  5. extremenanopowe

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    Love everyone..... Love.... think positive and encourage yourself to show others you are good. This way you will influence people to join your ideology. ;)
     
  6. Pemuda

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    What about that thread; Women Menstrual Cycle? And since 'income' is also another taboo subject, is that thread; How much do you earn a month ok?

    Ok ... here's another Malaysia Boleh feat ... in 2004 Proton bought MV Agusta for EUR 70 million. However a year later in 2005 Proton then sold MV Agusta for EUR 1.00

    Proton should have sold MV Agusta to me instead. I would have bought it for EUR 10.00

    Malaysia Boleh!
     
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    a very good compliment......................................................
     
  8. eRa@에라

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    erm, shud be in 2006...

    Hmmm, not a boleh feat, this one... esp. when proton ended up paying the Euro70 million debt it took for the acquisition... The selling was to safe itself from being drag into the brink of bankruptcy as the case of Agusta, but buying that company when it accumulated losses consistently, at a very high price is insane...
     
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    women's menstrual cycle affecting one's badminton game?
    i dont see it as a *** discussion topic. maybe my eyes arent that good anymore.....:(
    i guess that you should know Oldhand's intention. :)

    that Proton bought Agusta isnt that big deal. Eur 70m only....

    Pemuda,
    did you hear that Malaysia is going to buy submarines through a local Sendirian Berhad(Private Limited) company?

    Malaysia sure boleh! :D
     
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    Noted boss... not referring at your post actually :eek: ...

    I feel the spirit of Malaysia Boleh should not be scrutinized as many countries also applies the similar spirit in facing this competitive world. This spirit will continue in motivating us towards moving forward and in believing that one day Malaysia/Malaysian will be what we visioned to be, though along the way, we definitely have to make some sacrifices and there will be dissatisfaction... let's not be too blinded by others' success ... even the most successful countries have their own dark secrets... :)
     
  11. koo_fan

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    That one eh? Not a suprise at all. Adeh, heart attack la.
    And yes, i think Proton screwed up inside and it shows up in their several ridiculous decisions.
     
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    Very laughable

    To say that Proton sale of MV Agusta was to safeguard itself from bankruptcy is laughable.

    It is laughable because Proton sold off MV Agusta one year after buying it.

    It is laughable, very laughable because Proton sold off MV Agusta for EUR1.00 after buying it for EUR70 million only one year ago. What kind of depreciation is that!! And you dont need an accountant to tell you that as I believe even my 12 year old cousin brother will say it is madness to buy something for EUR70 million and then sell it off for EUR1.00 after 12 months or so.

    What 'safe itself from bankruptcy' are we talking about here?? First of all, we are talking about EUR70 million here, and that is about RM300 million +/-. Proton is not buying a packet of nasi lemak for RM1.50. To make such an investment, there should be such an exercise called feasibility study conducted by Proton in the first place. To say Proton need to sell after a year in order to save itself is lame.

    Rather than sell of MV Agusta for a mere EUR1.00 to 'save itself from bankruptcy', I would be more than happy to pay Proton EUR10.00 cash upfront for MV Agusta.
     
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    Before we go about saying other countries have or apply something similar to our 'Malaysia Boleh' in order to gear itself to face the competitive world, I suggest we take a good hard look at ourselves first.

    For those nations surging way ahead of Malaysia, to say that they have their own dark secrets and that we should not be blinded by their success is a weak argument. We are not being honest with ourselves and are merely consoling ourselves.

    Rather than setting our benchmarks against the best, we consoled ourselves that the best out there have their own 'dark secrets' and that we should not be blinded by their success. Based on our subsidy mentality, we should measure ourselves against the likes of Yemen, Zimbabwe, Cambodia, Nigeria etc.
     
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    30% Bumiputra equity interest lifted for certain industries

    The following is an analyst's report on Malaysia's liberalization of the service sector:

    The government has lifted the 30% bumiputra equity condition on 27 service sub-sectors with immediate effect, kicking off an on going liberalization of the sector. The areas of liberalization include social services, tourism services, transport services, business services and computer related businesses.

    A national Committee for Approval of Investments in the Services Sector has also been established as a focal point to receive and process applications of investments, excluding investments in financial services, air travel, utilities, Economic Development Corridors, Multimedia Super Corridor and Bionexus status companies and distributive trade.

    According to the PM, the country is planning to raise the services sector’s contribution to GDP to 60% from 55% in 2008. The services sector accounts for RM102.1b of the country’s exports, RM99.8b of imports, and 55% of the country’s employment. Approved investments in the services sector totaled RM50.1b in 2008. The share of foreign investments was 11% of total investments.

    Comment

    An important step in the right direction, although the liberalisation move could be a case of ‘too little, too late’ for the stock market in the intermediate term. The country could face slower sustainable GDP growth post the global recession as well as a structural rise in underemployment.

    Nevertheless, the liberalization could revive some FDI interests in the Iskandar Development Region and possibly encourage MNCs to further up their stakes in the listed consumer companies. In the past, Nestle SA and F&N Ltd have significant stakes in their respective listed Malaysian subsidiaries, and may even consider privatising the Malaysian listed cos (although Nestle Berhad is unlikely to be privatised as PNB's significant shareholding serves as an important endorsement to its efforts to expand its halal food business).
     
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    Want to offer some suggestions and elaborate on ideas on how to realign the nation towards that direction?
     
  16. george@chongwei

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    yep, i guess this type of athlete is not needed for mas. no discipline and no mas boleh spirits:D

    Former world junior champ Elizabeth is suspended for indiscipline

    By LIM TEIK HUAT

    PETALING JAYA: Beijing Olympian and former world junior champion diver Elizabeth Jimie has been suspended indefinitely from the national elite squad for indiscipline.
    The Amateur Swimming Union of Malaysia (Asum) have decided to exclude the 17-year-old from the elite training squad based in Bukit Jalil after she continued to miss training despite several reminders.
    Asum secretary Edwin Chong confirmed yesterday that they had suspended Elizabeth from the training programme and had sent her back to Sarawak.
    [​IMG] Wasted talent: National diver Elizabeth Jimie has been missing training for more than a month.
    As a result, the springboard diver has been ruled out of the team for the World Championships in Rome in July as well as the Laos SEA Games in December.
    “She has been missing training for more than a month. We have asked her to turn up for training and the National Sports Council (NSC) even asked her mother to come here and try to persuade her to rejoin training,” said Edwin.
    “She agreed and turned up for training but after a while she returned to her old ways.
    “Although she is one of our top divers, we cannot allow this to continue as it will send a different message to the juniors.
    “Elizabeth can still come back to diving in the future but she has to appeal to us first.”
    Elizabeth was one of the divers groomed to carry the challenge for medals in the Asian and Commonwealth Games next year as well as the 2012 Olympics in London.
    She did the country proud when she became the first Malaysian woman diver to win the world junior diving title in 2006. She also bagged two bronze medals in her Asian Games debut in Doha the same year.
    She qualified for her first Olympics last year and also earned the honour of carrying the country’s flag in the closing ceremony.
    Elizabeth bagged her first individual medal in the FINA World Diving Grand Prix in Shenzen in February, finishing third in the 3m springboard final. Edwin also said that head coach Yang Zhuliang may opt for another Beijing Olympian, Pandelela Rinong, to partner Leong Mun Yee in the 3m springboard synchronised event.
    “Pandelela is still young and we are trying her out for the springboard apart from the 10m platform event,” said Edwin.
     
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    Where did you got all this news?
     
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    Such a waste if Elizabeth end her career like this. She's reaching 20 soon therefore, not much time left. She started well, so let it end well too.
     
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    Disagree. It's not like she wasn't given a chance to make amends - it's obvious that her heart isn't focused about becoming a champion anymore. Priority should be given to those who do want to.

    Still, where did this news come from?
     
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    Well, Wilfred. Quite true. And i'm looking forward to see what she's gonna say to us.


    p/s - aii...this George lupa la tu?

    The Star Online
    Former world junior champ Elizabeth is suspended for indiscipline
     
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