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Discussion in 'LONDON 2012 non-badminton events / discussion' started by limsy, Jul 22, 2012.

  1. limsy

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    will china top the table again?
    will russia beat america on the table?
    what do u think?:D
     
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    CHN contingent grabbed 51 golds 4 years ago in their homeground OG, while the runner-up USA bagged 36 gold, 15 golds separated them.

    Who will be the best this time? CHN or USA? Hard to see any country to pass these two superpowers in Olympic arena, CHN is still fave to defend his position as #1 rank in medal standing.

    RUS, host GBR or GER potentially will fill third position.
     
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    i haven't been keeping check. is China working as hard on the medals this time around?

    when at home it was a matter of face. now it is not as much anymore.
     
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    2012 London Olympics: AUS hopes to finish fourth on the medal table

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    The Australian Olympic Committee hopes to finish fourth on the medal table at the 2012 London Olympics. To achieve this, Australians will need to win up to 50 medals. Here are our best chances.

    Unfortunately, for Badminton, we are not expecting a medal.

    Here are our 50 expected AUS medallists:

    No.1 Men's 100m freestlye (Swimming).
    The Missile, James Magnussen, is head and shoulders above the rest of the world in swimming's blue riband event.

    No.2: Women's 100m hurdles.
    Despite a recent defeat at the Diamond League meet in London, Sally Pearson will start as the hottest of hot favourite in the sprint hurdles.

    No.3: Men's hockey.
    Under coach Ric Charlewsworth, the Kookaburras have won everything on offer except the Olympic gold medal. With five-time world player of the year, Jamie Dwyer, leading the team, they are an excellent chance of achieving it.

    No.4: Men's 4x100m freestlye (Swimming).
    With James Magnussen and James Roberts likely to swim the lead-out legs, Eamon Sullivan will be looking to anchor Australia to the gold medal as he did in the world championships last year.

    No.5: Men's 470 (Sailing).
    Malcolm Page won gold in Beijing with Nathan Wilmot and has since won three world titles with new partner Mat Belcher.

    No.6: Women's keirin (Cycling).
    Anna Meares could win three gold medals in London and with two successive world titles under her belt, this is her pet event.

    No.7: Women's BMX.
    Caroline Buchanan became the first Australian to win a round of the women's world cup in May. The world No.2 has also won two world titles in mountain biking.

    No.8: Men's Team Pursuit (Cycling).
    Australia were the outright favourites for this event until Great Britain shocked them at the World Championships in Melbourne. Either squad can claim the gold medal in London, it's that close.

    No.9: Men's Laser (Sailing)
    Tom Slingsby has won five world titles in six years and was named World Sailor of the Year in 2010. His one bad regatta since 2007 was at the Beijing Olympics when he finished 22nd.

    No.10: Men's Omnium (Cycling).
    Glenn O'Shea had to beat 2011 world champion Michael Freiberg just to make the Australian team for the 2012 World Championships in Melbourne. He justified the selection by claiming the world title himself.

    No.11: Women's 4x200m freestyle (Swimming).
    Bronte Barratt, Kylie Palmer and Stephanie Rice return after surprising the world with a gold medal in this event at the Beijing Olympics. With the addition of Melanie Schlanger they will be tough to beat again.

    No.12: Men's 49ers.
    When the skiff class was introduced to the Olympics in 2000 the assumption was this would be an event Australians would dominate. Twelve years later Australia has yet to win a gold medal but with duo Nathan Outteridge and Iain jenson they have the reigning world champions. It was skipper Outteridge's third world title in the class.

    No.13: Men's 100m freestyle (Swimming).
    Australia's second best swimmer is hardly a household name, but James Roberts would be the fastest in the world this year by nearly half a second if it was not for James Magnussen.

    No.14: Men's lightweight coxless fours.
    The quartet of Anthony Edwards, Ben Cureton, Sam Beltz and Todd Skipworth won gold at the World Championships at Bled, Slovenia last year but were recently beaten by the British crew at the Munich World Cup. Edwards is competing at his fifth Olympic and he has already won two silver and one bronze medal.

    No.15: Women's sprint (Cycling).
    Anna Meares holds the world record for the flying 200 metres but she will need to overcome her nemesis and reigning Olympic champion, Victoria Pendelton, to claim gold.

    No.16: Women's water polo.
    Defending Olympic champions the Netherlands will not be in London nor will the reigning world champions Greece. Australia will start in the top line of betting in the eight-team tournament.

    No.17: Women's double sculls.
    Kim Crow used to race Jana Pittman in the 400m hurdles but now she is set to become first Australian rower in 16 years to compete in more than one event at an Olympic regatta. Her best chance for a medal is with Brooke Pratley in the double sculls.

    No.18: Men's 4x100m medley relay (Swimming).
    As long as James Magnussen is capable of swimming a blistering final leg, the medley relay team is in with a shout for a medal. All members from the team, bar Geoff Huegill, that won a silver medal at the World Championship last year will be competing in London.

    No.19: Women's triathlon.
    There was no room for defending champion Emma Snowsill in the crack Australian team but Emma Moffatt could improve upon her third place from the Beijing Olympics.

    No.20: Men's road race (Cycling)
    Australia will arguably field the strongest squad in this race with Matt Goss, a sprinter who can climb, the best chance for a medal.

    No.21: Showjumping
    Australia's 11 medals in Olympic equestrian competition have all been won in the three-day event. Edwina Tops-Alexander is poised to win the first in showjumping.

    No.22: Women's 200m backstroke (Swimming).
    Missy Franklin of the USA is the overwhelming favourite, but Australia's Belinda Hocking is the best of the rest.

    No.23: Men's Double Scull.
    David Crawshay and Scott Brennan are seeking to become the first pair in 88 years to win successive gold medals in this event. They could do it.

    No.24: Men's BMX.
    There is no nailed-down certainty in the rough-and-tumble world of BMX racing, but newly crowned world champion Sam Willoughby has as good a chance as any in London.

    No.25: Men's long jump.
    Mitchell Watt laid down his credentials for this event with a silver medal at last year's world championships.

    No.26: Women's 100m butterfly (Swimming).
    Alicia Coutts has not repeated her success from the Delhi Games in 2010, but in the tougher pool outside the Commonwealth, this event is her best chance.

    No.27: Women's floor (Gymnastics).
    Lauren Mitchell's favourite apparatus. The Western Australian was the world champion in 2010 and a perennial contender.

    No.28: Women's team pursuit (Cycling).
    This a new event at the Olympics. Annette Edmondson, Melissa Hoskins and Josephine Tomic won silver at the World Championships in March and pushed the Great Britain team to break the world record.

    No.29: Women's 4x100m medley (Swimming).
    Australia has won this event at the past two Olympics, and while they are unlikely to repeat the success in London it will be equally surprising if they are not standing on the podium.

    No.30: Men's K-2 1000m (Kayak).
    Ken Wallace won the gold medal in the K1 500m in Beijing, and alongside David Smith will be a serious contender in the two-man kayak in London.

    No.31: Women's 200 metres freestyle (Swimming).
    Best friends Bronte Barratt and Kylie Palmer are consistently in the world's top five. Both should be pushing for a medal in the final in London.

    No 32: Women's 400 metres individual medley (Swimming).
    Stephanie Rice is back with a bang and of the two individual medleys, this is the one she has the best chance of winning. Her world record is the oldest one standing.

    No.33: Women's team sprint (Cycling).
    Anna Meares and Kaarle McCulloch have won three gold medals and a silver at the past four world championships.

    No.34: Men's K4 1000m (Kayak).
    With the rise of Murray Stewart, the quad kayak squad have leapt into medal calculations as proven by their silver medal at the recent World Cup in Moscow.

    No.35: Women's basketball.
    The Opals have won three silvers and a bronze medal at the past four Olympics.

    No.36: Team three-day event (Horse Riding).
    One of Australia's pet events with four medals - including three gold - at the past five Olympics.,

    No 37: Women's 200 metres individual medley (Swimming).
    Stephanie Rice is a consistent top-three performer in an event she won gold in at the Beijing Olympics.

    No.38: Men's coxless fours.
    Australia and Great Britain have won gold in this event at the past five Olympics. The new Oarsome Foursome of William Lockwood, James Chapman, Drew Ginn and Joshua Smith-Dunkley threaten to snap Great Britain's winning streak which started at the Sydney Olympics. Ginn is attempting to win his fourth gold medal.

    No.39: Women's 100 metres backstroke (Swimming).
    Illness has held Emily Seebohm back since bursting on the scene as a 14-year-old at the 2007 World Championships. When she is fully fit, Seebohm is one of the world's best.

    No.40: Women's balance beam.
    If Lauren Mitchell can perform on the first day of qualifying, she can compete for medals in a number of disicplines. Mitchell has form in the beam with a silver at the 2009 World Championships.

    No.41: Men's team sprint.
    Shane Perkins, Scott Sunderland and Matthew Glaetzer won the world championship in April.

    No.42: Men's 50m freestyle (Swimming).
    The world knows how quick James Magnussen is on the final lap of the 100m freestyle, but at the Australian Championships in March he showed how fast his first 50 is as well.

    No.43: Women's 4x100m freestyle (Swimming).
    Libby Trickett and Melanie Schlanger will lead a strong team but without a standout swimmer, the Australians will have to settle for one of the minor medals.

    No.44: Women's 3m springboard synchronised.
    Anabelle Smith (R) and Sharleen Stratton won bronze at the World Championships in Shanghai last year and in a small field of eight are likely to repeat the dose in London.

    No.45: Men's 50km walk.
    Jared Tallent won two medals at the Beijing Olympics and will be one of the favourites on the start line in London.

    No.46: Men's 4x200m freestyle relay (Swimming).

    No.47: Men's sprint (Cycling).
    Shane Perkins has been a consistent performer in this discipline over the past four years, including a silver medal in the 2010 World Championships.

    No.48: Men's pole vault.
    Steve Hooker is the reigning Olympic champion and was world champion in 2009.

    No.49: Men's quadruple sculls.
    This boat has won medals at the past three world championships including gold in Slovenia last year.

    No.50: Women's 10m air pistol.
    Lalita Yauhleuskaya is Australia's highest ranked shooter and London should be her fifth Olympic appearance. She won bronze at the Sydney Olympics.
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    hehe,hopefully badminton can play assist to usa or russia
    haha
     
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    how about will there be a three-way tie?..
    how about which country will get the most gold?
    will we get a poll?..:confused:

    *will limsy click the "Like this post" button?..:confused::):rolleyes::mad::eek:;):p:cool::crying::(:eek::D
     
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    the only "prediction" i'm gonna make is i'm gonna go out on a limb and say either US or CHN will get the most gold or most total medals. I don't think either one is gonna get the most gold and total medals at the same time..
     
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    USA is expected to top the gold medal tally again by relying 75 percent of their gold medals bagged from Swimming.

    They have IOC and FINA to thank massively for introducing too many ridiculous events when you can actually reduce every category to one event per cat.
     
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    I think USA, China, GBR will be top 3 medal tally. Russia and Australia will be in top 5.
     
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    2012 London Olympics featuring 26 sports

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    I won't expect the USA and/or Russia can win medals in Badminton. But, they can prove me wrong. ;););)

    For BCers wishing to know how many events (with medals) are available at this 2012 London Olympics, here is the programme featuring the 26 sports:

    1. Aquatics
    Diving (8)
    Swimming (34)
    Synchronized swimming (2)
    Water polo (2)

    2. Archery (4)

    3. Athletics (47)

    4. Badminton (5)

    5. Basketball (2)

    6. Boxing (13)

    7. Canoeing
    Sprint (12)
    Slalom (4)

    8. Cycling
    BMX (2)
    Mountain biking (2)
    Road (4)
    Track (10)

    9. Equestrian
    Dressage (2)
    Eventing (2)
    Jumping (2)

    10. Fencing (10)

    11. Field hockey (2)

    12. Football (2)

    13. Gymnastics
    Artistic (14)
    Rhythmic (2)
    Trampoline (2)

    14. Handball (2)

    15. Judo (14)

    16. Modern pentathlon (2)

    17. Rowing (14)

    18. Sailing (10)

    19. Shooting (15)

    20. Table tennis (4)

    21. Taekwondo (8)

    22. Tennis (5)

    23. Triathlon (2)

    24. Volleyball
    Volleyball (2)
    Beach volleyball (2)

    25. Weightlifting (15)

    26. Wrestling
    Freestyle (11)
    Greco-Roman (7)

    So, how many GOLD medals are available here? :D:D:D
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    Well, the total is 302 gold medals ;)
    Athletics and Swimming as usual are the top two sports that offer most gold medals, 47 and 34 respectively.
     
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    Swimming can be reduced to 12 events. One of the most ridiculous sports that can be exploited by USA.

    At least athletics is an open field where USA has to compete fiercely with Africans and Jamaicans.
     
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    i mean by reducing the gold won by china in badminton
    thus russia and usa get benifit from here
    hehe
     
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    China overtook USA the first time 4 years ago with home advantage.
    This time round they are expected to lose some. USA is pretty consistent with 35-36 for the last 3 games.
    The question is will China lose morn than 15 golds this time, my guess is unlikely.
    If they do, in which sports? it's unlikely USA or any other countries can pick up half of the golds that China lost.

    So, i believe China will top the gold medals at London 2012.
     
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    repentedboy, you're sooo right, some poster already noticed following:

    -more combination of medals in certain sports like swimming has 34 medals with men's freestyle alone has 5 with different lengths.

    IF the swimming medals are much rationalized, definitely the number of medals gained by the USA will decline significantly.



    -US cheats on medals "ranking" by sorting by medals count versus traditional /global method of ranking by medal priority: gold > silver > bronze

    Basically the medal distribution among the advanced (developed -esp. Europe), developing and under developed (poor) countries (such as Asia-Africa) are relatively better distributed as time goes by, reflecting the advancements made by those countries in Asia-Africa and decline faced by some European countries.
     
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    YES ! I remembered that vividly in Beijing 2008. Towards the end of the last Olympic event, general concensus was going around saying China is the outright winner of the medal table with the number of gold medal count followed by USA who obviously didnt bag enough gold medals to overtake China.

    But, in some sources especially Bloomberg news displayed their medal table with USA topping the group based on the total number of medal counts overall.

    When I saw that information published by Bloomberg, I was wtf they are on about. Obviously China was the winner because they are determined based on the number golds won not the total number of medals won.

    These white rednecks are such sorelosers. USA cheats with drugs and played influential role in IOC's rulings to favour their performance and medal hauls.

    Only a few nations can stand up to such sport tyrant. China, Russia and Great Britain.

    If Soviet Union still exists today, I bet that country will dominate every Olympic edition.
     
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    that might not be enough this time round.
    May be they will top the table with no of athletes plus support staffs. spot on the olympic spirit , it's taking part, not winning.
     
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    SWIMMING at the SUMMER OLYMPICS
    (detailed breakdown of the number of events)





    Men's Events (total 17)
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    Freestyle (5): 50 | 100 | 200 | 400 | 1500 meter
    Backstroke (2): 100 | 200 meter
    Breaststroke (2): 100 | 200 meter
    Butterfly (2): 100 | 200 meter
    Individual Medley (2): 200 | 400 meter
    Freestyle Relay (2): 4 X 100 | 4 X 200 meter
    Medley Relay (1): 4 X 100 meter
    Marathon 10 km (1)


    Women's Events (total 17)
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    Freestyle (5): 50 | 100 | 200 | 400 | 800 meter
    Backstroke (2): 100 | 200 meter
    Breaststroke (2): 100 | 200 meter
    Butterfly (2): 100 | 200 meter
    Individual Medley (2): 200 | 400 meter
    Freestyle Relay (2): 4 X 100 | 4 X 200 meter
    Medley Relay (1): 4 X 100 meter
    Marathon 10 km (1)

    The swimming events of Men and Women are almost identical, differs only in Freestyle, men has the longest distance of 1500 meter while women has 800 meter.

    Just the Freestyle alone (men & women) contributes total of 30 medals (G / S / B) :D
     
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    Obviously you have never swum or ran track :rolleyes:. Why don't we do away with weight categories at various other sports as well while we're at it, after all judo is judo and boxing is boxing :D ... Diving from 1m, 3m, 10m what is that all about??? Get rid of it as well, make it 6m! "[​IMG]"

    Anyhoo here is the Sports Illustrated prediction by one of their writers (obviously as rightly claimed above, this table would actually put China on #1 in the real world [​IMG]):

    Projected Medal Count[TABLE]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: header, colspan: 2"]Country[/TD]
    [TD="class: header"][​IMG]
    Gold[/TD]
    [TD="class: header, width: 15%"][​IMG]
    Silver[/TD]
    [TD="class: header, width: 15%"][​IMG]
    Bronze[/TD]
    [TD="class: header, width: 15%"]2012 Total[/TD]
    [TD="class: header, width: 15%"]2008 Total[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: country_flag_tally"][​IMG][/TD]
    [TD="class: athlete_country_tally"]U.S.[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally"]42[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally"]26[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally"]31[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally"]99[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally2"]110[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: country_flag_tally"][​IMG][/TD]
    [TD="class: athlete_country_tally"]China[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally"]42[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally"]30[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally"]25[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally"]97[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally2"]100[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: country_flag_tally"][​IMG][/TD]
    [TD="class: athlete_country_tally"]Russia[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally"]28[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally"]23[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally"]28[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally"]79[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally2"]73[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: country_flag_tally"][​IMG][/TD]
    [TD="class: athlete_country_tally"]Great Britain[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally"]23[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally"]23[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally"]19[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally"]65[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally2"]47[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: country_flag_tally"][​IMG][/TD]
    [TD="class: athlete_country_tally"]Germany[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally"]11[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally"]15[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally"]23[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally"]49[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally2"]41[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: country_flag_tally"][​IMG][/TD]
    [TD="class: athlete_country_tally"]Australia[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally"]16[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally"]13[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally"]11[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally"]40[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally2"]46[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: country_flag_tally"][​IMG][/TD]
    [TD="class: athlete_country_tally"]Japan[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally"]12[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally"]14[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally"]13[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally"]39[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally2"]25[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: country_flag_tally"][​IMG][/TD]
    [TD="class: athlete_country_tally"]France[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally"]8[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally"]15[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally"]9[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally"]32[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally2"]41[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: country_flag_tally"][​IMG][/TD]
    [TD="class: athlete_country_tally"]Italy[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally"]7[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally"]5[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally"]13[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally"]25[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally2"]27[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: country_flag_tally"][​IMG][/TD]
    [TD="class: athlete_country_tally"]South Korea[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally"]8[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally"]9[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally"]6[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally"]23[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally2"]31[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: country_flag_tally"][​IMG][/TD]
    [TD="class: athlete_country_tally"]Ukraine[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally"]5[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally"]5[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally"]8[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally"]18[/TD]
    [TD="class: medal_tally2"]27[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]


     
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  20. demolidor

    demolidor Regular Member

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    On that medal count method I do have to say it is (feels) just as strange to rank a country with perhaps only 1 gold medal above another that might have 10 silver and 15 bronze and no gold but in the end it is one Olympic champ versus none ...
     

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