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Discussion in 'Badminton Rackets / Equipment' started by DinkAlot, Apr 22, 2009.
Make sure kwun get some commission so he can allow you to sell thru BC.
I original wrote a long post (like this one is short ) about the BP but decided not to post it because it would only add to the confusion. Let me just say:
Everything is relative, it's too hard to quantify everything universally because all these words, even hard numbers such as the exact BP can be misleading because of where the majority of the weight of the racket is distributed.
The best example I can give for now (without typing many paragraphs) is an 87g AT900P and a 92g RSL X2 Gold. Both swing heavier than its stated weight. Both rackets will swing close to a 94g Cab 20 but both swing very differently. The 900P will feel like a sledgehammer with all the weight concentrated at the end and the Gold with all the weight concentrated in the middle, near the T-Joint.
+87g AT900P and 92g RSl X2 Gold swing close to 94g Cab 20
+900P, the weight is all at the top of the frame
+Gold, the weight is all in the middle of the frame
Results: in different feel and dynamics.
+900P will swing easy and feel that way, cutting right throw the air even though it's a boxy frame. It will be more powerful.
+Gold will swing a bit odd, doesn't swing decidedly through the air, but it will be better for control in blocking shots and stability.
Going back to the Ultra, I can only say that an 85.5g Ultra swings heavier than the stated weight, about 2-3g, yet it's moderately balance, definitely not head heavy (BP290).
All this and yet we have so many other variables to consider such as the 5g difference in weight between the 900P and Gold, different BPs, different materials just to name a few.
I just read all that back, it's also too confusing.
4-6 weeks is Panda's best guess.
Of course, that's why Panda needs to talk to him.
If not ,BC members could always order off the online store !
Yes, I'll second that observation about Tommy's smash.
I didn't like that smash at all
It'd be great if you were to put up a video of Halim with the Ultra.
But then, his official equipment sponsor isn't gonna like that a lot!
Eh, this sticky situtation can be readily remedied by painting the stringbed with the sponsored's logo .
How stiff is the Ultra compared to the RSL X2 Gold?
Don't ask. Don't tell.
Just mask out Halim's face.
THAT is Harlim's twin!
Or put a mask on
It's a different.
X2 Gold: initial few millimeters of bend is very stiff, then tapers off/stays consistent.
Ultra: initial few millimeters of bend is not as stiff but gets progressively stiffer more predictable (for me).
Overall ultimate stiffness is comparable, hard to say one is stiffer than the other. I'd need both rackets side by side in the same weight. Incidentally, in this comparison it's an 85.5g Ultra to a 93g X2 Gold.
But as with any racket, once you "break-in" the shaft, all of them become more flexy.
If Panda puts on a mask and tries to pretend he's Halim smashing, everyone will say:
"Hey, Halim gained 90lbs. and smashes half as hard now."
what racket halim is using now? i know he use to use 4U at700.
4U AT900T when he's training/coaching.
When he really needs to pound the bird (at Panda usually ), he switches to the 4U AT700.
A panda would still be recognizable isn't it??
it's hard to miss an adult panda
how it going!
it is great to see you. I hope you have lots of fun when you came down. Do let us know if you come down again
Thanks Oldhand..your too nice.
you are too kind to say that! you are much better player then you lead on. You just got stuck with Suckie partner......hahah Sorry about that
Consistent basis is the key
Panda, I agree with you! I am unable to flex the Ultra on a consistent bases and, the string tension is just too high for me to do anything with it.
however I did not really get a good chance to use the Ultra due to the high tension.