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Park Joo Bong

Discussion in 'General Forum' started by Cheung, Sep 11, 2002.

  1. Cheung

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    see today's Star online

    Park Joo Bong will leave M'sian team as coach after Asian Games.

    It quotes him as saying

    "As the Malaysian coach, the pressure is great and public expectation is high. It has been a valuable experience for me working in Malaysia and I have given my best,” said Joo-bong.

    Wish him all the best and hope the M'sian team can also continue to win tournaments.
     
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    It is a sad day for Malaysian badminton with Park's departure. During his tenure, he managed to produce a world class pair in Chan/Chew, reintill confidence in Choong Tan Fook and forming a formidable pair in Choong and Chang Kim Wai. It is unfortunate that Lee Wan Wah is contantly injured, otherwise the doubles would have had more success.
    Park Joo Bong is the ultimate doubles player, he was a god during his 10 year reign in the late 80s and early 90s, near unbeatable. I believe Chan Chong Ming has got the qualiies in him to emulate Park, but he has got to play a more mature game.
    Let us all wish Park every success in whatever he does in the future.
     
  3. whizkelv

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    This is a great embarassment to Malaysian badminton, as they failed to keep a world class coach in the team.
    I guess there is too much hand-meddling in BAM management, which was also the reason why Morten Frost left the team prematurely.
     
  4. kwun

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    agree with the other posters. all eyes have seen the improvement of MAS doubles under PJB. without him however, i wonder if they can still maintain their level to compete with the top Indonesians and Koreans. i doubt it though.

    i wonder where PJB is planning to go next? any guesses?

    - the Chinese are probably too arrogant to hire an outside coach, besides, they already have TXF doing special training for the MD players. but imho, the Chinese has the talents but desperately needs a good coach to fully exploit them.
    - the Brits already have Rexy, but perhaps one more doesn't hurt?
    - the Singaporean. another import? but is PBJ too high profile for a still under development team?
    - the Koreans themselves already have Kim Moon Soo.
    - the Danes and the Indonesians are doing pretty well. probably don't need another coach's opinion anyway
    - the US/HK/TW/JP?

    homeless? PJB seems to be the best person that MAS could find, and it was a darn good marriage. i wonder what happened?
     
  5. Winex West Can

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    The article on worldbadminton.net mentioned that PJB is considering two offers but refuses to name the countries.

    My guess would be NZ/Aus and maybe Thailand.
     
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    Doubt if Thailand takes the game so seriously.

    Maybe they are richer countries like Japan, US, or Europeans

    eg.Holland or Germany.
     
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    I'm also very interested to see the results of Tong Xian Fu with the Chinese Doubles teams. If Park (very unlikely, I know) joins Tong to coach the Chinese doubles then they could be unbeatable. :D
     
  8. whizkelv

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    Below news which showed the arrogance of BAM was quoted from today's NST:

    New Straits Times » Sport

    Badminton: BAM looking to regain former glory
    S. Selvam

    Sept 12: THE BA of Malaysia’s decision not to extend the contract of doubles coach Park Joo Bong is only the beginning of a comprehensive review of its entire training programme to prepare for the challenges of 2003 and beyond.

    According to BAM secretary Zolkples Embong, several coaches and players may find the door shut on them as the association attempts to shed the “extra baggage” to face future challenges.

    “Once the Asian Games is over, there will be a thorough review of all existing programmes, from the schools, States to national level,” said

    Zolkples when met at his office in Bukit Jalil yesterday.

    “And there will be some movement of coaches and players. Those who have not been producing results, will be asked to leave.”

    BAM is looking to regain its former glory and Zolkples said the review exercise was the first step towards achieving that aim.

    “The bottom line is results, and in the case of Park, he insisted on a decision before the Games. But having said that, it was a mutual decision,” said Zolkples.

    “Park is aware of our 2004 Olympic ambitions but he also wanted to spend more time with his family.

    “As such, he did not want to commit himself half-heartedly to the programme, hence the announcement yesterday (Tuesday),” said Zolkples.

    BAM announced that it will not extend Park’s tenure as the doubles coach once his contract expires on Dec 31.

    “There is a three-month notice clause in Park’s contract, and we were willing to wait until after the Asian Games before making a decision. In fact, BAM even offered to give Park until Jan 31, but he insisted,” said Zolkples.

    “But Park assured us that it will not affect his focus nor his efforts to train our players for the Asian Games.”

    Besides Park, the other foreign coaches with BAM are Indonesians Indra Gunawan (on a National Sports Council contract), Basri Yusuf and Kho Mei Hwa.

    “There are many aspects of the sport that we are looking into to provide a conducive environment for the shuttlers and coaches to work in.

    “In fact, we are going to finalise the plans to move into the Juara Stadium complex as this will reduce travelling time and enhance the rapport between coaches and players.”

    BAM believes the shuttlers can provide a gold medal from the 2004 Athens Olympics, hence the need to streamline its operations with the respective State BAs and grassroots.

    Zolkples, however, declined to comment on the possibility of engaging another foreign coach to replace Park but said that BAM was happy with some of the local coaches.

    “If the foreigners can prove they are better than our local coaches we may consider. But it is too early to speculate on that.”

    In fact, several former internationals have turned to coaching — Cheah Soon Kit, Yap Kim Hock, Tan Kim Her, Rosman Razak and Phang Cheh Chang — and have achieved some good results.

    Under Cheah’s tutelage, the women’s pair of Lim Pek Siah and Ang Li Peng won the Manchester Commonwealth Games doubles gold medal while Yap is credited with the rise of Asian Juniors doubles champions Koo Kien Keat-Ong Soon Hock.

    “We have to start somewhere, and the review will be the beginning of it,” said Zolkples.
     
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    This is lame, I wonder if Malaysian can hold on to 2004. Its a big year for most of badminton players since I believe a lot of people will be retired after olympic, uber, thomas cup.
     
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    Kwun,

    Good analysis. I think JP would benefit from Park, but the question is which company will pick him up? I think Unisys, has a chinese coach from china coaching their mens singles players, he seems to be doing quite well as hidetaka yamada has become a world class player. Only problem is language, Park would have to learn some japanese quickly if he wants a job there. HK has chan chi choi, who by the way is one of the most intelligent coaches i have talked with, and coached by. Now that PBSI has banned tony from competing for USA, maybe USA would be interested in Park and try to bring the level of the current US doubles teams to a higher level, well they have over a year to do so in time for Athens.
     
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    the best places to go for PJB are places with talents and lacking good guidance. and i believe MAS falls into that category and therefore i commented that it was a good marriage. China is definitely another one. however, i am unfamiliar with the other ones. i just pointed out the countries with somewhat strong culture in badminton and perhaps have potential candidates to be trained.

    US just hired Tony as a coach, i wonder if they'd spend more money on another one? US does have a history of hiring high profile coaches though, (Ardy, Tony). but perhaps PJB this time came at a wrong time? however, i would definitely rate PJB as a better coach than Tony, just in terms of experience.

    some conflicting info coming from PJB, on one place he said he is having offers from two countires, on another, he says he want to spend time with his family. perhaps with the recent drop in the Koreans doubles, PJB may go back to his homeland?
     
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    Why not Kwun ??

    He was a lecturer in Korea's institute of physical education before he left for coaching. Anyway, Kim Moon Soo was his double's partner for some 10 years .... I don't see why is it not possible for them to be partners again....
     
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    If that's the case, then isn't it quite likely that he comes to Singapore then?
    Hmmmm..... :D
     
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    According to the latest news of Singapore Daily News (Chinese), Park has the invitations from Canada, Denmark, Singapore, England (again ?) & Korea. He wouldn't go back to Korea, citing children's education. He also mentioned that Korean coach Kim Moon Soo will be cut.
    My guess he is going to S'pore, I really hope he can come to CANADA.
     
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    I must confess that I'll be pleasantly surprised if PJB comes to Singapore. Most Singaporean badminton enthusiasts adore him, I'm sure, but WHO can he coach at presumably such high level doubles training? Our best local doubles specialist, Patrick Lau, is well on in years as a serious player and has recently parted some of his money as capital for a joint-venture with Zhao Jian Hua's chicken rice business. We have recent adult imports from Indonesia but these players can only play a more effective role as sparring partners for the local talents. Since our Thomas Cup ambition is targetted at 2012 (unless the authorities decide to bring this date forward), it is still a long way off as our main focuss is on scouting, selecting and developing young teenage prospects to fill our Sports School in 2004. Ideally, such trainees should reach and peak at 18 to 21 years old by 2012 to give us any real chance of participating in the final rounds of the Thomas Cup and perhaps, the Uber Cup as well.

    Right now, we just do not have numbers enough for PJB to make his services really useful and satisfying for him. Maybe, two or three years before 2012, when we hopeflly, will have enough players (ideally 100 to choose from) for all recognized events, will it be an ideal time for Singapore to engage such a high profile coach as PJB.

    For those interested in Singapore Badminton, like "Xuser", we have recently revamped our coaching and training structure with 59-year-old Zheng Qingji as technical director at the helm. Zheng, who had been an SBA coach before and is now a Singapore Citizen, was one of China's national coaches from 1981 to 1984 and had tasted success at Thomas Cup, Asian Championships and the All-England levels.

    Zheng will have his protege, Zhang Qingwu of China's 1977 TC team (women's coach) and another acclaimed Indonesian coach, Mulyo Handoyo (men's coach), who used to coach Taufik Hidayat, to assist him. Admittedly, these coaches are more singles specialists than doubles, and some doubles coaches closer to PJB's credentials will definitely be good to groom player-candidates with the firm basics of the game.

    Zheng's job will not be easy. He will have to oversee the various departments of High Performance, Development, Coaches Education and Sports Science and his immediate task is to source for suitable candidates to fill vacancies in these departments. The emphasis has quite rightly shifted to Sports Science, which Singapore has been collaborating with Australia for a long time now, as it now forms an integral part of the modern game. As I have stated in other postings in this Forum, our top players have the technical skills to match the best in the world but somehow lacked that "extra" to win the gold. Therefore Sports Science will provide the psychologists, physiotherapists, and trainers who understand biomechanics and injury prevention to help our players attain greater honours.

    Singapore is serious in her ambition to become a world badminton nation!
     
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    My guess is Joo Bong will coach the Danish Team provided they can find sponsorship for his remuneration.

    Reason being is as follows :

    1- PJB will go to one of the countries that has already established talents so that he can produce quick result to enhance his reputation as a world class coach.

    2-As it is, China and Indonesia do not hire foreigners and that leaves Denmark with world class doubles players.

    3- The Danes has reasons to hire PJB. They would want to strenghten their doubles in order to complete their lineup with Peter Gade, Rasmussen, and Kenneth Johansen in the singles for their Thomas Cup assaults.
     
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    I would say the edcucation of his children (how many ?) will rate #1 in his decision.
     
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    If Chinese are not considered foreigners then Indonesia does not have foreign coaches.
     
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    Even tho Rexy is over in GB i think Park could be tempted to come here if the BAofE and SportEngland are willing to fork out for him. there is come real talent in the men's doubles side. Take a look at Robertson and Clarke, and Archer is coming back there could be some devastating men's doubles pairs inthere

    Neil
     
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    Neil - Park Joo Bong has already coached in England and left some time ago. He supposedly felt that the players didn't work hard enough for him, and didn't give him enough respect.

    Also, the rumour I hear is that Rexy will be leaving England quite soon.
     

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