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Pre-weaving - what now?

Discussion in 'Badminton Stringing Techniques & Tools' started by krisss, Feb 27, 2010.

  1. racquetattack

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    Point well taken, Thanks
     
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    i tried pre-weaving before and i have two issues with it:

    1) it doesn't help the weaving process. in fact, it makes it even more difficult as the strings have almost no tension and goes everywhere.
    2) tensioning the string always lead to the string twisting. seems to add more stress to the surface.
     
  3. Pete LSD

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    Twisting is a real problem at very high tension.

     
  4. dunmaster

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    twisting most occurs at grommet #9/10 either on the top or the bottom cross. this also normally occur at higher tension, such as 28+ lbs.

    for starter, once you keep the strings kind of tight, and leave good starting loops in the middle and first cross (about 25cm long, and 2x for the center of main and 1x for the cross), you should be fine.

    if twisting is a problem, simply do NOT pre-weave after #9/10 grommets.
     
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    HURRAY! Finally someone agrees with me that pre-weaving isn't the best thing since sliced bread. Weaving through loose (as in <15 lbs) crosses is a complete nightmare. Also, I've found that if I pre-weave every main I end up wasting string, about three feet per racket, and I hate waste.
     
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    I agree with that. Pre-weaving at such low tension is horrific!! I find that it eventually took the same amount of time overall. And string wastage is always bad :(

     
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    Who says pre-weaving cannot be done with adequate enough tension to make the weaving of the crosses easy?
    You can actually pre-weave the mains first, hand-tension each main string by hand working from both the sides towards the center. Doing the mains is a two-step process, ending with reasonably tight mains, by pulling the two middle main strings with some rubber bands towards the handle and then just tighten them.
    With reasonably tight mains you then pre-weave the crosses, which is an easy job.
    After you have finished, just untie the rubber bands used to hold the mains tension.
    To ensure fool-proof kink-free stringing, don't pre-weave the first 4 top cross strings.
     
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    the professional stringer at All England 2010 :
    - just 2 Yonex flying clamp
    - Pre-weaving ..... :)

    [​IMG]
     
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    One piece string job or two piece?
     
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    Taneepak, from what I have read before I thought you didnt like prestringing for the twisting reason?

    Kwun, weaving with out tension may be difficult for you but that doesnt mean its harder for everyone. It is a different feel that is learned.

    Regarding twisting...Twisting occurs at the shared grommits because the tensioned string is pressing against the untensioned string while you pull it through. Some strings twist more or less than others. Since the twisting occurs when the loose string is pulled through, higher tension will cause more twisting. There is still some cases where you can pre string and it wont twist as much, and that depends on how the 2nd string (cross) goes through the shared grommit. I dont know if there is a technique to this, I just find it is random.
     
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    twisting can be avoided during the pulling of mains. you just have to pay extra attention when you are pulling the mains through the grommets which the cross string is also there.

    otherwise, pre-weaving or not is really a personal preference.
     
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    +1 here.....I dislike pre-weaving also.
     
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    +1 If you are careful/attentive twisting can easily be avoided
     
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    Illusionist Pro!

    Thankyou for that mains diagram , I have followed it , and it helped me so much!:cool:

    Would it be possible to do one for the crosses aswell?


    If anyone can help me on the tie-offs I would be very grateful!

    Once again , thankyou for all the help!
     
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    Looks like people are pretty evenly divided between likeing and dislikeing preweaving! So yesterday while stringing I decided to try preweaving a Yonex Nano6000 since I have not done preweaving in about a month. My conclusion is still the same as before. I will continue to string without preweaving from now on. Too much waste of time and string.I guess if you want to do this, you would have to do it regularly to be any good at it. I have a dozen frames to do today so I won't be using any extra time preweaving. I won't say it is bad, but to each his own.
     
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    Wow thats a lot of rackets in one day.

    Just wondered if illusionistpro actually saw my previous post as it was at the bottom of the previous page?
     

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