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Record of walkover and retired between same country player since 2006

Discussion in 'Professional Players' started by limsy, Oct 2, 2011.

  1. undeadshot

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    Walkover to give ranking points is a given this year. Before that, I'm not so sure but sometimes it does help to boost the younger player's confidence or give them more experience.
     
  2. chris-ccc

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    Walkovers to give 'aided' ranking points

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    True; Walkover to give ranking points could be useful for younger players.

    However, when these younger players get these 'aided' points, at the back of their mind, they might not think that they have worked hard for these points.
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  3. twobeer

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    With all the stageacting in soccer/fotball in the penalty zone.. that sport seems still to thrive..
     
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    twobeer Regular Member

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    Lots of talk.. I think he went into this WC in an "unbeatable" "zone" after crushing each opponent and LD having to work more, but honestly LD was still that fraction better at playing the game...
     
  5. pjswift

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    Well, LCW has made tremendous progress. WC is supposed to be a major and he has never gone past QF. This time he reached the final and almost won it. LCW s a 'slow winner'. He progresses in steps to clinch titles. See his pattern of progress in AE. QF?, then SF, then Final, then victor, then unquestionable victor. He plods along because he gets no assistance but he finally reaches his destination, sooner or later.
     
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    He will for sure.. He may or may not clinch the OG next year.. But if he don't, he will have the opportunity to collect those big-medals after LD retires.. The only danger would be a fast improving CL, WZM or Victor Axelsen. But most likely he have all the time to collect his missing trophies after LD has put his racket on the shelf.
     
  7. limsy

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    since i was in my last month of last semester in my college
    so i will create another list as soon as i could
    amount of matches between china ms/ws against other country and the amount of walkover
    amount of matches between china ws/ws against own country and the amount of walkover
    if i free,will add on double department
    but i feel that the % will be ugly for china
     
  8. flite

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    COULDN'T AGREED MORE!! The one and only logical posting from you that is true about China. Thumbs up boy.

    I have the same feeling as you do.:D
     
  9. twobeer

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    Is it ugly with more WOs against your friends that you play on a daily basis? Would you try to fight for a win with pain just to beat your friend, robbing him/her of the winning chance and then maybe have to withdraw due to the injury later in the tournament anyway??
     
  10. limsy

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    would and did u purposely score low mark in exam in order to made ur friend rank higher than u?
    if yes,then ur point is valid
    if no,think again

    p/s:it is quite noble and idealistic,did u practice it in ur life?
     
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    Think again Limsy :) My result on the exam does not stop my friend from getting a great score. Eliminating him from cup play will eliminate him from scoring higher (my win at his expense)... very different things.
     
  12. limsy

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    so we should cancel inter class competition
    since they are from same school
    we should cancel inter school competition since they are from same state
    we should cancel inter state competition since they are from same country
    we should cancel international competition since we are from the same earth
    wow!
    did i get u idea correctly?

    then we should also welcome alien(if there is any),since we are from the same universe
    if u are UN head,
    there will be no more economy,military competition,one world one earth
    so harmony yeah?
     
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    u must had misunderstanding the purpose of sport and Olympic spirit
    just like how li yong bo manipulate his player like chess,to achieve his ultimate goal
     
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    I think you are overcomplicating things.. If I play a friend and is injured, I think it is quite human to consider how he or the team would feel if I eliminate him by worsening my injury, but are not able to play the next match and thus have to give that away to a competitor to my "club" .. I am not saying there is anything wrong with the mentality to always go for the max whatever the personal cost, but I think consideration to friend/team is not such a strange unphatomable concept..
     
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    True. :D:D:D Soccer fans who know their sport well can spot the acting even before the referee makes the decision. I think it's the same for Badminton; Badminton fans who know their players well also know when the players are acting.

    In both cases, for entertainment purpose, the acting is fun to follow. But when wishing to watch a truly high-spirited well-fought Badminton match, I would boo at the players who have pretended/acted, especially when they gave walkovers and gave us "No Match" to watch. :eek::eek::eek:
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    Actually I could not agree more :)

    I just think some fans just blows these things way out of proportion, most probably becuase they do not like some of these players to win in the first place.
     
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    some people might call that: aiding and abetting. :)
    Besides, in "professional" play, the default standard is to give your best without consideration for who is on the other side. The moment you do that, you've crossed the line IMO.
     
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    In theory it is easy.. But as I have mentioned before, I have witnessed games from big players like KKK/TBH, Taufik, Ville Lång, LD, Nathan Robertsson (and swedish nationalteam playing local tournaments as well) not giving it 100% .. Sometimes just enough to win.. Somtimes it have been blatantly obvious in some finals that the winner has given the local favourite some "grace" for the home crowd etc.

    The only player that always seems to try to play his best is Peter Gade! And that is why I think he is so very popular despite not getting the real big wins under his belt. Even when he faces a weaker opponent he seems to try to play the best game..And I really love this about him.. That what makes him a Real idol for many fans i think..
     
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  19. limsy

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    i agree on this
    that's why we made some noise:p
     
  20. pjswift

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    Luckily for LCW, his victory over LD in AE11 proves that he does not have to wait for LD to retire to reach his destination. But there s nothing LCW can do if the coward keeps running away from him. ( A fast improving CL, WZM is a long way away. These guys are rote trained so they can upset when another WO is arranged. Now if the draw can be done like in JO for a perfect relay act...well, if some underdogs are decent skilled and smart, they know they have the best chance to take out CHN youngsters, like INA MS Hayom did.)
     

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