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"s" serve?????

Discussion in 'Techniques / Training' started by jw, Jan 4, 2002.

  1. jw

    jw Guest

    i have read somthing about a serve called an "s" serve...does ne one know ne thing about dis type of serve?
     
  2. ^shaz^

    ^shaz^ Regular Member

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    Short serve?????

    dunno, jus a guess
     
  3. viver

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    'S' serve because the shuttle trajectory resembles the letter 'S'. Try the search function, either at top or bottom and look for 'spinning serve'.
     
  4. Christian

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    Maybe the S is used as short for "Sidek"..

    I don't know, but it could be.

    And what is the Sidek-serve..?

    (a short explanation for those of you who don't already know..)

    The Sidek brothers were specialists in MD and they invented a serve in the mid 80'es where they hit the feathers and nothing but the feathers thereby making the birdie spin.... thus making it almost impossible to return with anything but a high lift to the back of the court..

    Very efficient serve at the time which brought the Sidek brothers tons of succes and which was quickly copied by everybody else.. but the IBF changed the badminton-rules so that the serve was no longer allowed..
     
  5. @ndy

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    if i remember correctly my father once told me that the "s" stroke is actually the flick serve, as oppposed to the conventional underarm serve.

    if hard to desc, i hope u guys can understand wht i mean.
     
  6. jw

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    dats a really kewl way to serve...but can u be more specific...like how do u hold the birdie? from the cork or wat? just a little more info please thnx
     
  7. Christian

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    Different people served the Sidek serve in different ways.

    This is how I did at the time.

    The start position was the same as with a back-hand serve.

    The difference was that I turned the birdie upside-down and then kind-of sliced the feathers by bringing the racket sideways and forward from left to right (for a right-handed player) in a rather fast movement.

    That made for a fast short serve with a spin.

    As I recall, all players who used the Sidek serve turned the birdie somehow in the start position in order to be able to hit on the feathers, but it was not all players who turned the birdie directly upside-down.

    Still, this is all just of historical interest today, where you must hit the cork.
     
  8. Islander

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    Question about the S serve

    Hi
    I know it's an illegal serve, but I was wondering if the wierd flight path of the bird with the S serve is only imparted when using a feathered bird. I have tried this technique at home with plastic birds but the bird seems to fall straight to the ground. I use a backhand serve with the plastic feathers towards the racket and slice accross the bird with the racket face...but with no apparent effect on the flight of the bird at all. Am I doing it wrong or is it the fact that i'm using a plastic bird.
    I know it's a frivolous topic but "what the hey!" I'd like to be able to do it for fun.
    :D
     
  9. Gollum

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    It won't work with a plastic shuttle.
     
  10. Islander

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    Ahhhh, that explains it! Thanx
     
  11. Neosakai

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    What's a S Serve?

    SLice serve? :confused:
     
  12. bighook

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    The S serve is a serve developed by the Sidek brothers (Malaysia)where the feathers were struck first and this made for a just crazy tumbling flight which was almost impossible to control or return with consistency or accuracy.It was made illegal quite a while back.I have experienced it from an oldtimer and let me tell you it can create alot of havoc.You literally have to wait until the bird almost hits the floor and the cork straightens out to hit it back.
     
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    I have tried the S-serve at my Club and the result is rather good! Depending on you racket's speed and the surface of contact (feather), the shuttle could overturn in a specific characteristic: it revolves around itselt. I put S-serve in our amateur tournaments, the referees don't ban, but all them and my opponents prove to be surprise about it!:)
     
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    The 'S' serve or spinning serve was developed, I think by Tang Xian Fu in mid 70's. He used this serve in the 1976 HK Invitational and won the men doubles, so you can assume he was already using it before.

    This spinning serve is used mostly in doubles and can be performed with either backhand or forehand. The backhand one is used more due to accuracy and consistency though the flight resulting from forehand serve is more unpredictable.

    During the 70's, China was not a member of the IBF and therefore not able to participate in any IBF sanctioned tournaments. Maybe the Sidek brothers were the first to use the serve outside Asia, but I would say the serve is incorrectly called Sidek serve.
     
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    wow this sounds fun! but too bad i got no idea how to do it...
     
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    just hit the feather first when you serve
     
  18. Greasemonkey

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    so you hit the feather instead of the cork?
     
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    I will try that out tomorrow.........:p
     
  20. Papa Smurf

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    Well they banned the S serve, because its a double. Its actually not banned, but ruled illegal. Whats happening is that youre hitting the birdie in 2 places at the same time. Which is why they also took out the 'carrying' rule, because its redundent. Carrying is also a double.
     

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