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Discussion in '2011 Tournaments' started by Loh, Feb 8, 2011.
Apparently this was not an isolated incident. Happened elsewhere too.
I am glad that it was published in our press so that I got to know it too. Otherwise the host country fans may think it is their right to show disrespect to winners from the other participating countries and their national anthems.
How would INA fans feel if they were the victims instead?
They can also disrupt the competition. I have seen on TV how many times the swimming events have to be restarted just because the home fans were too enthusiastic and their loud noises can interfere with the starter's orders and become unfair to the competitors who may not be able to hear properly.
i read at kompas she got injured, this is the link if you understand bahasa Indonesia. http://lipsus.kompas.com/seagames20...mi.Indonesia.Firda.Harus.Bermain.walau.Cedera. as for stomach bleeding I know from someone who's very reliable about Ina team.
I'm Indonesian and i have to admit the crowd were very immature. they should've respected player from other countries. i think this happened because they misinterpreted the meaning of nationalism. I'm really sorry Loh, if you are very angry.
Thank you for your understanding.
We are all members of ASEAN for decades, not just yesterday. Our leaders hope to make this special regional association as close as possible, maybe more like EURO. As a region we are BIG and STRONG. But even EURO has had its problems. So we are trying to bridge our different nations with as many common things as possible and the SEA Games have been a very good start. So our peoples must learn to respect this close relationship and cheer each other on if possible instead of displaying bad manners.
Our schools and our leaders at every level must encourage the unity of ASEAN and build on its strong foundations so that as a whole we can move forward together. It is not easy but ASEAN has thrived and there are many things we can do together to help us develop into a better association of nations. We must at least learn to respect each other.
imho, if firda has got internal stomach bleeding then she ought to be asked to rest. its simply not worth risking her own personal health for a regional gold or silver medal. she has to remember that she need the proper rest in order to carry on for a longer and more difficult journey, which is ultimately Olympic glory etc...
Malaysia - Indonesia go to penalities, 1-1 after 120mins of play.
What drama, MAS wins on PKs. The INA goalie should have saved that last PK but it slipped through his hands and trickled into the net.
You sure are a sport person. Interest in every sport, every continent.
Congrats to MAS.
Actually the INA keeper just blocked the shot, and the ball trickled into the net. If the shot were not hit towards the middle, it may trickled out. Taking into account all factors (the equalizer), it's MAS fortune to retain the gold.
I watched parts of it on hahsports.com
INA looked very dangerous in attack. The marking on both sides were average at best.
Yes, MAS had fortune on their side but as they say, you have to be good to be lucky. It was their day.
Congraz MAS to retained the Gold....A truly Champion as they beat INA twist to grab the Gold, even the Bronze medal winner also go down to MAS in SF............Well done.
Curtain falls on stampede-marred SEA Games
[TD="colspan: 2"]Posted: 22 November 2011 2146 hrs
JAKARTA - A mesmerising closing ceremony for the Southeast Asian Games Tuesday was unable to lift the pall cast over competition by the deaths of two fans in a stampede at the headline football final.
Fireworks and dancers lit up the centrepiece stadium in Palembang, which co-hosted the Games, but there was a sombre undertone to the event after the stampede that proceeded Indonesia's clash with Malaysia for football gold.
Two victims died in the crush before the Monday night match in Jakarta when stadium gates were opened and the crowd surged to get in, Jakarta police told AFP, adding that a boy taken to hospital had slipped into a coma.
Games organisers Inasoc had warned of potential flashpoints ahead of the highly-anticipated final -- which defending champions Malaysia won 4-3 on penalties after the teams were deadlocked at 1-1 after extra time.
The tragedy took the gloss off a glittering Games for the hosts, who collected 182 golds out of the 554 available in a bulging total medal haul of 476 overall.
It meant Indonesia topped the Games medals charts for the first time since 1997 -- when they last hosted the competition -- and left 2009 winners Thailand trailing on 109 golds, with Vietnam further back on 96.
The biennial event saw athletes from 11 nations compete for hundreds of medals, regional bragging rights and a rare chance to shine on the international stage.
Indonesian athletes scored memorable victories in many of the headline track and field events, while also cleaning up in niche sports such as paragliding, roller skating and traditional Indonesian martial art pencak silat.
The hosts also swept the drama-filled badminton competition, while their under-23 football team stirred the passions of the nation with its run to the final.
But the Games struggled to shake off nagging organisational problems, including a delay in building venues and a lack of accommodation and transport in the South Sumatran city of Palembang.
The troubles prompted Myanmar's chef-de-mission to vow his nation will do a "better job" when they host the next Games in 2013.
There was also repeated criticism of home fans for barracking visiting teams -- in particular Malaysia's athletes throughout the 11 days of competition.
"There must be some respect," Malaysia's chef-de-mission Datuk Naim Mohamad told AFP.
"That's been missing from the fans on many occasions. Booing national anthems is the wrong behaviour for a Games that should be about regional solidarity."
Games' organisers Inasoc defended the competition saying they overcame early problems caused by alleged corruption from within the government to host a solid competition.
"It was good Games, a lot of good things happened too," said Rita Subowo Inasoc chairwoman. "I think the athletes have enjoyed the competition. We had problems but I think we fixed them pretty quickly."
Subowo joined the chorus of calls for fewer minor sports -- such as paragliding and bridge -- in the next edition, saying they divert resources and attention from Olympic disciplines.
The gold most craved by the home fans was in the headline under-23 football, but instead they endured heartbreak as Malaysia's captain Baddrol Bakhtiar scored the winning penalty, following two missed spot-kicks by Indonesia.
The Malaysian side were hailed heroes for their gutsy showing in the incident-packed final, with the country's prime minister tweeting his congratulations shortly after the game.
Elsewhere, Singapore's swimmers again dominated the pool, repeating their strong showing in the 2009 Games in Laos, while Thailand stormed to 14 athletics golds and Vietnam cleaned up in the gymnastics.
But other competing nations were left to digest a disastrous showing. The Philippines stumbled badly taking a paltry 36 golds, their worst showing for a decade.
Only tiny Brunei left the biennial Games without a gold medal.
Here are some pictures of the games, for those who did not make the trip. Pictures were taken from just beside my hotel, on the premier cab back to Hotel after sweating it out to get tickets, and at the Plaza Senayan, the, err, SEA Games Official Shopping Centre.
Pictures of the Istora Senayan .....
Did not get to take pictures of the action on finals day. Instead, I focused on the surroundings of Istora. The situation at this Istora was actually pretty tame, compared to what was happening at the Gelora (football stadium). In short, what was dished out to Fu Mingtian, Tanongsak and Kunchala/Songphon was nothing compared to what was in store for the Malaysian and Vietnamese football squad.Here are some pics of the Istora:
The Most Valued Gold Medal ......
was fought here ...... at the Gelora Bung Karno. The Gelora was to be the scene of a tragedy during finals day. Two people, a young teenager and a young man died when they were trampled on in the carnage as the crowd tried to hustle in.
There were more people than tickets sold during the semifinals and finals day.
The Gelora Stadium during early morning, all quiet on semifinals day
But the football mad crowd have started queueing ... two tickets per person rule was enforced. One cluster of these booths was set on fire the day before the final.
This is the line of least resistance, also known as the queue for the most expensive tickets (VIP West, VIP East, and VVIP), which are almost out of reach of the typical ticket touts. The privilege of buying these tickets .........
...... is that you get to sit among the regularly booed VVIPs (aka Malaysian supporters). Yup, the Sports Minister was there too. Plus the suspended Malaysian Coach on semifinals day.
Brisk commercial activities within the Gelora grounds
Close-up view of the Gelora
Official transportation of the Malaysian football team - although they discarded this on Finals day for the more comfortable bus
The victorious Malaysian football team - an extremely strong bunch of minds.