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Shame on IBF

Discussion in 'Rules / Tournament Regulation / Officiating' started by jkusmanto, Feb 6, 2006.

  1. jkusmanto

    jkusmanto Regular Member

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    The new scoring system should be used in the short time.
    Because I have never red a whole system, I have looked for it in IBF website.
    On the left side of the first page, there is a clickable image "New Rally Points SYstem". I clicked on it and it took me to another page where 4 options can be choosed.

    New Rally Points System
    1. Rally_Point_Scoring_System
    2. Rally_point_one_serve_in_doubles
    3. Rally Point Scoring Score
    4. 2006 - Rally Point Scoring Score Sheet,

    The last 3 options are the right one.
    But the first one is the old system : "The best of 5, 11 points". :D :confused: :rolleyes:
    How come ????? Mr. Gunalan ?????
     
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    Not only that, but these laws have clearly been written by somebody with a poor grasp of English. A couple of examples:



    "11.1.4 The player of the receiving side standing in diagonally opposite service court of the server shall be the receiver."



    This is just clumsy, poor English.



    “11.3.1 After the service is returned, the shuttle may be hit alternately by either player of the serving side and either player of the receiving side until the shuttle ceases to be in play (Law 15).”



    This means that a doubles game has to be played like table tennis with each member of a pair talking alternate shots.



    This all just illustrates how badly implemented this scheme is, and demonstrates the IBF’s lack of intelligent thinking.
     
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    IBF is a joke! :mad:

    And this is only the "emerged" part of the iceberg... :rolleyes:

    Badminton is a great sport, we just have a really crap corrupted incompetent governing body... :(
     
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    uhhhhhh whaaaaaaa? this is dumb.

    but wait! i got it.
    law 11.3.1 (1) will read "players will have to trade racquets too, between shots, during the rally, until the shuttle ceases to be in play!!!!"

    this is getting worse.
     
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    Could have been better stated, but otherwise I see nothing wrong with that statement.

    ... hit alternately by [A] and until the shuttle ceases to be in play.

    where A is either player of the serving side
    and B is either player of the receiving side
     
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    IBF could be more competent, but corrupted? This is the first time I hear of corruption in IBF.
     
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    I've heard many bad things about IBF, which I would prefer not hearing, or rather not existing! :rolleyes:
    Including the way the votes are held...

    I am rather pessimistic on chances of things getting better, and on chances of badminton having a real serious and competent governing body... :(
     
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    Well try this clearer and grammatically better version then:

    "11.1.4 The player of the receiving side standing in the service court diagonally opposite to the server shall be the receiver."


    As for the other law (11.3.1), what is wrong with the esisting version? It is clear, grammatical and unambiguous:


    "11.3.1 After the service is returned, the shuttle may be hit by either player of the serving side and then by either player of the receiving side, and so on, until the shuttle ceases to be in play."

     
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    Yes, you stated them more clearly. Like I said, it could have been more clearly stated, but otherwise they are still legitimate.
     
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    Well just in a democracy we let people run for office,if they fail vote them out.

    Labour paarty vs conservative, democrats vs ?? whatever parties exist in France etc.

    But not torching people's embassies or sending in troops.
     
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    I don't agree. It is vital that the laws of any sport are well phrased and grammatically correct to eliminate any possible doubt about their meaning.

    The final draft should always be written by somebody who is completely fluent in English (and highly capable of writing unambiguously in it) - preferably someone whose first language is English.

    I suspect that the IBF website document has been thrown together by a lower quality writer, probably using English as a second language.
     
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    How is this related to badminton? Has the IBF done this too? It is almost as bad as changing to rally point scoring!
     
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    Agree about this! :p
    Politics and parties in France are slightly more complicated than this, but they have ensured a "non-proportional" voting system which ensures that always the same ones stay at the power anyway! ;)
     
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    In case it wasn't clear, IBF clearly does not work in a democratic way.
    For it to be democratic, it would already need votes to take place in a democratic way... :rolleyes:
     
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    In any tribe-and humans are very tribal-the smart ones always rule and the bottom ones always grumble. The smart ones are the minority, but for some strange reasons the majority bottom ones are more inclined to vote for the smart ones to be their leader. Sometimes they kick out a smartie leader, only to vote in another smartie. :confused:
     
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    It's gone on the IBF website.
     
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    Somebody must be listening.
     
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    Maybe a forum member brought this to their attention. They are responding, it seems. Well, why not try to contact the IBF directly with constructive suggestions, like drafting a well written set of badminton laws in English, Chinese, Bahasa Indonesia/Malaysia, Hindi, Japanese, Korean, Danish, Nigerian, etc? I think there are more non-English speaking badminton players out there. BF has enough expertise in most languages. Let us share our translation and drafting expertise with the IBF.
     
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    This is a matter of power, not smartness.
    Or do you think Mr G.W.Bush is the smartest guy on earth?? :p (sorry this is going off topic! :rolleyes:;))
     
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    Sometimes we don't see the real boss. The late Deng Siow Ping never had any official title but he was the real 'emperor'.
     

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