william and bobby (his brother) are both in denmark now to train with the danish team. Both of them have great potential and loves badminton but canada doesn't have the environment nor talent to train them so they went to denmark on their own account.
Cooler, I don't think both Will and Bob Milroy are training with the Danish team. They are both at the International Badminton Academy run by Michael Kjeldsen. BTW, it looks like Michael with Peter Gade is proposing to host 1-day clinics across N. Am. this summer. The fees are US$6,000/day. I believed that Bob is doing well winning some of the smaller satellite tourneys in Europe. Runner, it is very good and nice of you to frequent this forum. The other Danish player to do so is Jonas Ramussen and he's been great with information. One thing for sure about high tensioned racquets is that the racquets do not last but that's not a problem when you are sponsored by the manufacturer. Are you a singles or doubles specialist?
Compare Runner, why don't you compare BG 65 at 32-34 lbs and another racquet with BG66 at 28-30 lbs? My own personal limited experience is that 1) higher tension for BG65 can give greater control with decent tolerence. 2) The control can be matched with BG66 at a lower tension 3) Although BG66 is at a lower tension, the string may break earlier than BG65 at higher tension.
I'm just curious to know the results of those. Wouldn't a real hard hitter (I imagine that Runner must know what he's doing strining up to mid 30lbs in tension), break those BG66's instantly?
Sorry for not answering in a more timely manner these past few days, but the Danish championships took place and ended last night. Of course a thinner string (Bg-66) will give you more control at, say, 32 lbs than a BG-65 will at 33-34 lbs. That way you can always compare control and string thickness. BUt add to the picture that some strings have a very rough texture (BG-80, Ashaway Micropower and Legend). I do not string personally anymore. I do own a good drop weight stringer from the days where I wasn't on a sponsorship, so I'm not completely strange to the world of stringing. I have never personally experienced a string brake just from being strung at high tensions. Hitting with the racquet, of course, is another matter. If William and Bob are both at the IBA then that's why I don't really know them. The IBA is for "paying customers" so to speak. Apart from the foreigners the danes who go there are for most of them those who are not quite good enough to join the national training, but still want to give badminton career a shot. I know Kjeldsen, but not really any of his players out there at the IBA. Winex, I am a singles player. Although perhaps I should've been a doubles player. I am probably just a few pounds off the ideal singles weight, and in the end it does mean a lot.
The thing that always amuses me is that Yonex mislead by using the words BG-66 so we think it is a .66 gauge when in actual fact it is thicker than the Micropower which is a true 0.70. It makes me laugh... none of the Yonex strings ie BG 65/66 whatever, are actually that gauge. Give me Ashaway every time
Yonex is based in japan, so they use metric. Ashaway is based in uk, so they use gauge. Bg66 is 66mm, and bg68ti is 68mm. http://www.yonex.com/badminton_strings.cfm they dont always follow this convention though, because they will run out of names in no time.
Ashaway is actually a small town in the USA and are the only manufacturers of rackets strings there. Therefore they use universal measurements
Gauge is only used by the US so far as I know. The international unit for length is meters, and hence mm is the official measurement used by every country (that i know of) except USA.
Well, first, BG-66 is 66mm, which is ultra thin compare to most other strings (yonex or non-yonex). I don't think the numerical part of the name should be reflect the actual length, weight, width etc about the product. It's the customer's own responsibility to read about the spec (acutally, Yonex string package has large fonts indicate the length and gauge, etc). For example, so many strings are using 68mm and 70mm, it's impossible for any manufacture to use a perfect "numerical" name to indicate their product. Therefore, a lot of manufacture just use different "name" without touch base of any numbers. I don't think this way can help us to figure out the spec any easier, but just also need to read. If u believe the numerical part of the name should really mean something, I can not think about anything, but to say, the lower number often represents the lower end / older model in a series, and the higher number represents the higher end / newer stuff. This applies to a lot Yonex equipment. Such as BG 65 vs BG85, Ti3 vs Ti10, MP55 vs MP100. Still, it's customer's own responsibility to figure out his/her need and check the spec before spending $$$. If just take something, and assume this or that, well, what can I say?
You are not using gauge correctly. Gauge comes in 20, 21 and 22 and what not (although a gauge of 21 could mean a thickness that ranges from 0.69 (micro) to 0.73mm (light) ). Yonex has always use metric to describe their strings as well specifying the gauge. As in: 1. BG-68 Ti - 10/200m (33/656 feet) 0.68mm 22 gauge 2. BG-65 Ti - 10/200m (33/656 feet) 0.70mm 20 gauge 3. BG-85 - 10m (33 feet) 0.67mm 20 gauge 4. BG-80 - 10/200m (33/656 feet) 0.68mm 20 gauge 5. BG-70 PRO - 10/200m (33/656 feet) 0.70mm 20 gauge 6. BG-66 - 10m (33 feet) 0.66mm 20L gauge 7. BG-65 - 10/100/200/500m (33/328/656/1.640 feet) 0.70mm 20 gauge 8. BG-43 - 10m (33 feet) 0.75mm 20L gauge I don't understand why you would think that Yonex is trying to mislead the consumers.
What would they find out Btw... are you trolling? I can't tell. Let me just summarize what you have said so far: You contacted Ashaway, which told you that Yonex's model numbers represent gague numbers, and then they told you that they didn't represent gauge numbers, then they told you that Yonex are liars? Ashaway claims their MicroPower strings have greater power, even though the name says "micro" which means little power. So Ashaway is lying to us?
Do you mean Ashaway claimed Yonex were trying to fool the consumer by their nomenclature? as far as I have been playing badminton, I can't recall anybody claiming BG66 was .66gauge. I've been playing since before BG66 first hit the market (! a long time ago !!) Maybe it's a Yonex backlash.
patty, u better know what u r talking about before accusing others of trickery. Do you have any affiliation with ashaway or u r just too gullible ? gauge measurement is not precise nor consistent. For each gauge number (btw, there is no such thing as 0.66 gauge), there AT LEAST SIX varieties of measurement methods. For example of gauge 21 1. AWG = .0285" 2. Steel WG=.0317" 3. BWG=.032" 4. US standard for sheet and plate=.0329" 5. BG=.0349" 6. SWG=.032" More example: Yonex BG70 0.70mm/22GA Gosen Tecgut Tour 22GA/0.66mm Metric measurement is the most precise system we got so dun bash it or other companies that using metric. BTW, yonex shoes sold in Japan are in cm, it is way more precise than UK and USA 's men/women shoe size measurement system. When i buy 26.5cm, i know i'll get 26.5cm where as i have owned shoes of USA measurement in 3 number sizes on my same feet. I doubt anybody would think BG43,BG85, BG88, CBG100 as 0.43mm,0.85mm, 0.88mm and 1.00 mm, respectively
Then to my great surprise, Yonex is the leader in market these days, but not Ashway. heheheheheh.... Most ppl here at least, somehow deal with Yonex string before, did not ever heard anyone complain about "being tricked by model #". I assume, so many experts (no no, not me) here are not fools. Like I metioned before, there's no law / rules force manufacture to use the numerical part of the model # to actual reflect any nature of their products. Lucky u don't ever think SHB95 really means the shoe is size of 95.... j/k
