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Shoulder injury

Discussion in 'Injuries' started by Phydhel, Jan 8, 2006.

  1. Phydhel

    Phydhel Regular Member

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    Recently, actually about a few months ago, I was trying out some hardcore jump smashes,actually it was about the first time I ever attempted so,but on that day itself or even after the session my shoulder was just fine,few days later i went for another session and my shoulder started to hurt whenever i executed a lob(clear) or go for a smash, initially i thought that this would only last for while, as the pain went away as i played on.Unfortunately, whenever i START playing a new session, after say, a few days it will hurt tremendously ,and like always it will fade away after a whiles play,perhaps my mind gets used to the pain. This injury is very very specific , as in,it will only hurt if I go for a lob or smash when i need to use the force of the whole arm like a whip,other than that it never hurt.And recently it seems to be very painful at first (as usual) and fairly painful throughout the game,perhaps i'm thinking too much about it. This injury seems to be a permanent one,as for my final exams last year I never moved for like 3-4 months and when i started playing it still hurt a lot. I am not sure wether this injury was caused by the hardcore jump smash seesion or not, because this injury didnt come as a result of a fall or what, it just caught me by surprise, i didnt know why it hurt at first. Perhaps it is my style of lobbing or smashing? anybody with similar problems or advise please help.
    Thank You
     
  2. Cheung

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    Put your racquet arm stretched out straight in front of you horizontally.

    clench your fist and point your thumb up.

    rotate your arm so that the thumb points directly down perpendicular to the floor.

    does that produce some strain in your shoulder?
     
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    YOU HAVE A SHOULDER INJURY



    S e e

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    d o c t o r
     
  4. Phydhel

    Phydhel Regular Member

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    Thanks wedge, I think I'll do that.
    Anyway it doesnt hurt when i do the thumb thing,but it hurts when i place my hand on my back(back of palm against my back).Something like what some ppl do to wash their backs when taking bath. anyway it hurts in the front of my shoulder. I just wanna know if anybody has the same problem and what may have caused it. Any advice like that of wedge's, is irrelevant.
    Thanks
     
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    I have a similar injury. I sustained it when I was experimenting with adding weights to rackets. The injury is in my arm joint rather than my muscles and appears to be a permanent injury. The problem goes away when I rest from badminton for a few days but comes back after every heavy playing session. For a permanent fix, I think surgery is necessary.
     
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    Have you asked a doctor about this, or is it just your own opinion?
     
  7. JohnNano

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    Its a common injury. It is causes either by a 1 hand fall(without properly falling techniques) or a too much strain cause by a hard clear( with high tension & stiff racket ) or even a so called too-long-never-play injury.

    Remedies :
    1) go for a accupuncture ( it will heal your arm in 1 week time, not much pain, very easy but when you play again, the problem will be reversible again )

    2) go for a surgery, very expensive and not very natural and they will tie something to hold your bone joint together firmly( yes very firm, if too hard a force acted on arm again, it will cause bigger problem, immediate hospital. )

    3) Lastly, i can say its a no remedies thing.... cause it happen to me too... :crying:

    good luck and god bless and take care.
     
  8. CoolDoob

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    I asked Doctor Google about it. He looked at me and shook his head. The diagnosis wasn't good at all.

    As I had the problem for almost a year and there's no sign of it going away. Short of stop playing badminton or go have my arm butchered, the problem is likely to stay with me.
     
  9. Gollum

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    You know, that Doctor Google guy always reminds me of Dr. Nick Riviera from The Simpsons :rolleyes:

    (In other words, Dr. Google is a quack.)

    Physiotherapist could have some input too.
     
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    still better than Dr. Do-little. No help at all :D
     
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    hmm, I wonder if that's the long head of biceps that's got torn.

    Sounds like your excessive smashing has caused the problem.

    Wedge's advice is very appropriate - wether anything can actually be done by the doctor is another issue.

    Dunno why people suggest surgery so quickly - one should try to find out if a surgical procedure is likely to work before doing it!
     
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    Well, doctor Google reckons the damage is to the cartrilage. To fix the problem, you have to cut out the damaged part that rubs against the bone and get inflamed.
     
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    i would rather stay with the injury than to do such dangerous and complicated surgery.
     
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    Heads in the sand.

    Internet worship.

    Lack of respect for expert opinion.

    Silly.
     
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    Opening a hole into the joint, taking out loose debris and having the lesion debrided is traumatic even with arthroscopic surgeries. Consult a specialist to find out what exactly is wrong first!!!

    Check out: http://www.arthroscopy.com/
     
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    Thanks for sharing, I am truly grateful.
    About the surgery, I am not sure..haha I'm but a humble student. Recently I played again and realised that if I forced myself to lob(clear) big time before a badminton session, it will hurt at first, but as I continue lobbing it will slowly go away, the secret is I think in the mind, it will get used to it. However this must be done before every session unfortunately,that means undergoing the pain for awhile,probably about 10 minutes or so. To describe it, the pain is of a tearing sensation. However I have not found a full recovery for this injury, but I think it will stay on with me. For me the only way out is through this pain-first-then-fun method there is no other way it seems, even if I were to warm up and pull the muscles (or tendons whatever they may be) concerned, it will still hurt when I clear or smash, the solution seems to be to get used to the pain through the exact same action of lobbing and smashing, until it goes away.
     
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    i have a friend who suffered extreme pain in his shoulder. it turned out to be a torn tendon. -tendons are what fasten the muscles to our bones, by the way. :) he just went 2 see a doctor who specializes in tendon injuries and he was given medication to speed up the healing process last month. he is now playing about 4-5 days a week. :)
     
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    No no no no! :eek:

    Those phrases set alarm bells ringing for me! You are gambling with your future health if you continue to play through the pain.

    Pain during exercise is a warning that the exercise is damaging you. You describe the pain as "tearing", which is very worrying indeed.

    Pain is not just "in the mind". It is an indication of bodily damage (exceptions for neurological pain, which you don't have).

    Please, stop playing at once and consult a doctor.
     
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    exactly and agree !
     
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    No I did not imply you should attempt a DIY surgery. See someone who knows what they are doing. Not someone who can take apart something then put it all together again and find there are some extra bits left over :)

    But I share your sentiment. I rather live with the injury than have my arm cut up.
     

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