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Smash at Opponent,allowed?

Discussion in 'Rules / Tournament Regulation / Officiating' started by cendolabc, Apr 14, 2006.

  1. cendolabc

    cendolabc Regular Member

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    Dear all,
    I've been informed of different opinions.
    Please clarify if it's considered a FOUL should your return smashed shuttle hits your opponent's body.
    Whatever your answer is, Please explain WHY.
    and, if you have the time, please give me a link to a credible source to support your answer.
    I've placed bets on my opinion. Let's just hope im right.
    Thanks.
    appreciate it loads.
    Cendolabc
     
  2. Hagane

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    Not a "foul" but a "fault"

    http://www.badmintoncentral.com/badminton-central/content/view/82/56/1/11/

    It is a ‘fault’:
    13.2 if in play, the shuttle:
    13.2.5 touches the person or dress of a player; or
    13.2.6 touches any other object or person outside the immediate surroundings of the court;

    It's a fault once it touches the person's body/dress.
    Whether you're being offensive to the person, then it is considered acceptable, unless you're bullying someone with skill levels way below yours.
     
  3. LazyBuddy

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    In a competitive level (and healthy environment), the side touches the shuttle using any part of body is considered as fault. The opponent award the victory of this particular rally. Therefore, say if you lauch a smash, and hit your opponent, you win the rally. Therefore, aiming the body is an acceptable strategy in badminton, especially effective in fast paced double games.

    However, bully hitting opponents (especially if there's huge gap in skill) with intention of injury or show-off attitude, is not acceptable. :cool:
     
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    Right, definitely not acceptable but allowed.
     
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    Hey Yin Hun,
    Definitely a FAULT as stated clearly in the law:

    13.2 if in play, the shuttle:
    13.2.5 touches the person or dress of a player; or
    13.2.6 touches any other object or person outside the immediate surroundings of the court;

    I didn't know you like to play these kind of shots to your opponents!:eek:
    I better take note of that!:D
    otherwise my body will turn blue and black from your abuses!:crying:
     
  6. cendolabc

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    justice

    No la! i ask this coz "I" always kena... if u guys know any of my badm. buddies,, every week, i sure at least kena once wan..
    they take turns to hit me or something... :crying:

    I want justice!!!!!!!!!!
    please help... all my brothers,heng tai, si heng and sifu-s.. pls advice...:D
    thanks..
     
  7. BadFever

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    Haha....hey cendolabc, sounds like you need to change partner la. Definitely need one who can hit the shuttle further away to the back or a bit lower when doing drop shot.
     
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    learn to defend urself... i used to 'kene' also... be careful when playing
     
  9. DivingBirdie

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    of course allowed. sometimes players good in stretching reach out for the shuttle well, even at far spots, and smashing against their bodies would prove a better strategy than elsewhere if he's a good stretcher
     
  10. cendolabc

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    embarassing lar

    u know, there was a misunderstanding in a game weeks ago..
    this 'ko sau' - expert lar..
    first smashed me at the face! yes, my left cheek.. it hurt quite a while..
    minutes later.. at my head!!

    what hurt the most was my waterface!! drop my waterface!!
    where to put my face lar!! :crying:
    i was kinda angry coz we only play for the first time and this bugger start to attack me liddat lar??!! :mad:

    ahem,, back to the misunderstanding..
    i screamed, " I'll fight you!!"
    but i had a funny accent and my pride was severed,, and i think it sounded more like...
    "I'll F_CK you!!" ...... i didn't realized that until there was awkward silence in the court... .. errr... ooppss..:eek:

    so to that guy who never show up again in the court..
    if you're reading this.. Chow... errr.. i wasn't angry.. i was just... err.. ahem.. responding?..
    sorry man...;)
     
  11. cendolabc

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    embarassedAGAIN

    sorry guys..
    didn't mean to waste ur time..
    i misunderstood the tactics i read frm books..
    yeah.. of course smashing at the opponents' FACE/anypart of body is very MUCH allowed...

    u see. i've just started playing badminton 2 months ago. the last time i held a racket to play with adults in court with proper netting was like... er...
    No.. there was NEVER such a time.. hahaha

    the people who are consistent in their badminton games are usually REALLY good.. so in order for me to keep up with these guys..
    i really need to buck up...
    skill takes time to polish...
    therefore, i compensate my inadequacies with books lor...
    mana tau , i salah baca..
    sorry folks..
    will post smarter questions in future..
    now.. can somebody teach me how to delete this thread.. coz err.. im the one who initiated it..

    gosh.. i can start to draft my book, "badminton bloopers".. sigh..:(
     
  12. wood_22_chuck

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    I think it takes courage to face your embarrassment, and it's the first steps towards improvement. Take the time, learn the skills, and you'll be well on your way.

    Good luck, cendolabc.

    -dave
     
  13. cendolabc

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    thanks Dave

    thanks man.. woah..:D
    • from rm18 to rm130 racket,
    • i learnt that there's such thing as badminton court shoes and for some unknown reasons there are all white :confused: ... and i bought myself a pair
    • i know what ''sparring'' means..:cool:
    • from some guy smashing at my face to this encouraging pm...
    sob!! im making progress!!!

    ps= how ignorant of me to forget that non-malaysians might read my pm.. :eek: sorry ah.. aiya..in future; will include translations for my local dialects and slangs..
     
  14. madman

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    Interesting thread. To follow-up, what if your opponent tried a net kill, but the bird hit your forehead (let say you are right in front of net) and the bird bounced back to your opponent's side and onto the floor. Do you win the point?
     
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    well the bird hit yr forehead so u lose the rally there already
    besides, aim for the body is one of the tatic to use
    when u come against some really good runner that can get to
    anywhere on court or if the opponent is very tall.
    Of course u won't do it when there is a clear skill difference
    but when both side r really close, then every tatic counts.
     
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    Hi, Don't feel bad or embarassed as even the pros were all beginners once.

    Smashing at an opponent's racket-arm is a very basic strategy that any coach will teach once a beginner have directional control of the smashes. It'll often be a winner or force a weak return setting up for a kill.

    Smashing at the racket arm is more effective than smashing at the head / face. Although psychologically intimidating, shuttles coming at your face is easy to direct to an open space on the court and turn the opponent's offence into defence.

    Keep in mind, becareful of every player's eyes whether you are defending or smashing. Rupture of the eyeball is a possibility and this injury is probably the most dangerous injury you can get from badminton (apart from the usual knee, ankle, elbow etc.)

    So take extra care if you don't wear glasses. A point / shot is not worth risking injury to your eyes. Remember that it was reported that Korea's SHON SEUNG MO's damaged his eye from such injury.

    Take care everyone !
     
  17. EastDevil

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    With all due respect, if the fella can consistently smash and hit you, then its quite an honour to be playing him because he must be pretty accurate and good. Either that or you're a smash magnet.
    :D
     
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    not cool man..

    • me, being a smash-magnet - correct.
    • him, beng consistently good - nope. i noticed that he made loads of silly mistakes..
    no doubt, he's better than me. but i have to agree with the previous posts in this thread that it's not at ALL admirable to 'smash' at a female amateur's face and head consecutively..

    not cool man.. *thumbs down*
     
  19. chessymonkey

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    very true, but nothing u can do untill the day he learn not to
    aim for ppl's head, before that day come, remeber when u r expecting a smash right at yr face or if u'r standing too clsoe to the net and have no time to back off. u have a racket and it should be place in front of your body. it can be a very good shield, don't hesiate and put it in front of your face if you feel that yr in danger of a head shot. who knows perhpes a few lucky rebound would make him think twice before going for a lady's face again.
     
  20. cendolabc

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    thanks chessymonkey..
    will note that tip.;)
     

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