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So what happened to the Y-frame rackets?

Discussion in 'Badminton Rackets / Equipment' started by lynx101, Feb 15, 2009.

  1. lynx101

    lynx101 Regular Member

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    I came across this Y-frame badminton racket in a catalogue from a few years back and I was thinking about how there aren't really any in the online stores anymore. What happened to them? Were they just a failure in innovation?

    Also, have you ever owned one and if so, what differences did you notice between the y-frame and the conventional rackets?
     
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    Swingbadabada Regular Member

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    You meaning the Prince style Rackets [​IMG]
     
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    lynx101 Regular Member

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    Oh so it's patented?
     
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    Swingbadabada Regular Member

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    I've only ever seen Prince Rackets like this so i would guess so. Either that or other manufacturers don't see any potential in it.
     
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    i'm sure the patent has expired.
     
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    lynx101 Regular Member

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    Not surprised lol. Why would you want to keep a patent on something as hideous as that :p

    It looks structurally weaker as well.
     
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    Prince moved on since then, they put holes in their rackets now :D

    [​IMG]
     
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    The Prince designer needs replaced :p:D:cool:
     
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    Actually, I think the Y-shape is a much better technology than the O-ports :)

    Actually I am a bit puzzled why they dropped the Y-shape, I think it was a nice differentiator for them marketing, sales wise..

    /Twobeer
     
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    I must agree with you there. As much as the Y-shape is fairly ugly, I would think that the sweetspot would be massive. The O-ports though, I just don't know what they do other than possibly make the frame weaker.
     
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    Guy that I've played with a couple of times has one of them.. I don't like the look of it. I can't see the point of a greater hitting area from expansion of the racquet head's surface towards the grip.
     
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    Good point, I guess that it's not needed if you can consistently hit the sweetspot. The only thing I can think of is that by lengthening some of the main strings, they've made it more forgiving.
     
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    If you can make 100% of all shots hit the sweetspot, any tech. increasing sweetspot size is meaningless :p.. The idea is basically the same with ISO-frames versus oval.. It you hit the sweetspot each time an oval shape racket will be more powerful (given all things else being equal :) )..

    Take a look at current squash rackets and compare with the ones of the 70s... Y-shape is dominating squash racket design today...

    /Twobeer
     
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    Yes, but squash is a different sort of game in terms of space to manoeuvre. You are more likely to get shots close in to your body off a fast paced rebound, in which case the Y-frame would be beneficial. In badminton I think reach for shots you're stretching for is more important than shots closer to your grip.
     
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    I got one myself more than 15 years ago. It was OK!
     
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    That doesn't look too bad actually!
     
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    i've still got 3 of the prince Y shaped racquets and use them fairly regularly.
    no idea if the technology is helpful, i'm of the mind that technology is just mumbo jumbo nonsense anyway, but i have been using these racquets for a while now and guess have just gotten used to them.
    also, they are indestructable, so i'm not sure about the structurally weaker statement.
     
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    What are the preposed advantages of the Y-frame, stated by Prince?

    I just made an uneducated observation, which was my first impression. In my opinion, I thought it looked weaker.
     
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    From Prince website:

    "The Prince® Y-joint design provides superior torsional stiffness, because the head portion connect to the shaft at an angle, allowing bending and torsional stresses to be balanced. In addition the Y-joint design provides longer strings resulting in an expanded power zone."


    I have one, and it's an amazing defensive racket. Never saw too many other users though, so I'd guess they never sold all that well.

    Prince still make Y-joint rackets, but unfortunately it's only their low-end models now.

    O-Ports work really well in tennis-rackets, so it's no great surprise that Prince wanted to put the same technology into their badminton rackets (plus they've spent all that money on R&D so they're damn well going to use it every way they can).
    Supposedly, they improve aerodynamics and allow you to swing 24% faster, which if true, is very impressive. I'd love to try one out, but they're just too expensive :(

    Perhaps what they should have done, is put O-Ports into a Y-joint racket.

    Out of interest, anyone remember a badminton racket shaped like a squash racket, without a shaft as such? Would have been from about 2002-2003 I think, and I have no idea of the brand. And no, it definitely wasn't just a squash racket ;)
     
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    haha, i wasn't having a go at you, i'm just stating a fact based on my personal experience. i've had those racquets for 15 years, and nothing seems to break up. they're well battered, but are the ultimate survivors.
     

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