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Stiff headlights/fast frames... what's the current lay of the land?

Discussion in 'Racket Recommendation / Comparison' started by Mark A, Jan 23, 2018.

  1. Mark A

    Mark A Regular Member

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    I'm finding my current golf-club rackets a bit difficult to move lately, so I'm going to give a headlight/fast frame another go. My last of these was the NS9900 - pretty much the apotheosis of what I'm after.

    I've been out of circulation for a while, being married to Victor - what are the current rackets that are nearest to the NS9900? I want something stiff, with ludicrous headspeed. Current frontrunners are

    NR900 - fast frame, but I gather it's not as headlight as a "Nano<>" should be
    NR800 - not sure of stiffness
    JS12 (new) - not sure of balance or speed
    JS10Q - possible issues with high (i.e. my) tension

    but I'm open to any brand or price if the specs are right. Feel free to recommend anything at all;).


    M.
     
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    I run at the moment the DuoZS. Not sure about your tension for a long time. The small head of my 3U's is fast and superstiff but slower than a Jetspeed 10. The NR800 OC is stiff, but has also sinking issues. Can talk about the NC.

    I would put in the upcoming Duo8XP. From the matrix it is headlighter than ZS and 10. It should be stiff and can take up to 35. It isn't out yet, so it is only based on paper and we will see it in March.

    IMO you can't have both. A light head means less material and to apply 33 will turn out for most rackets a collapse after a half year.
     
  3. Mark A

    Mark A Regular Member

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    Tension isn't a dealbreaker - I'd knock 2 lb off for the right racket.

    And I think Kamilla R-J ran her (blue) NR800 at 34.
     
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    When you say fast frame, do you specifically mean fast as in aerodynamically fast, headlight or both?

    The NS9900 wasn't actually that headlight, I would call it even balanced, although it was described by Yonex as headlight.

    If you are considering the JS12 and JS10Q, I would suggest you wait for the JS11 which is supposed to be available any time now.
     
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    AFAIK she use BG80 at 32, but even some Stringers (maybe you know them ;)) claimed that Kim GJ ran his JS10 4U at 34/35 and what a tank of racket it is and you know how the JS10 turned out in terms of sinking...also Lee JH use 33/34 at a JS12 and we also know how what a tank it is..LOL
    The pros argument as reference is worthless to tell how sturdy and tolerant a racket in terms of high tension is. I strung a 3U NR800 at 14kg a few years ago on regular base. Trust me, you should skip.
     
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    Mark A Regular Member

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    I'll ask Paul about the JS11 - not buying anything till I've held it in me hand.

    It'll have to be bloody good to offset its god-awful looks, though...
     
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    Give the Z Strike another go for a good while. I know you didn't gel well with it from what I read in Paul's review but that racket takes time to adjust to.
     
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    From Gosen, I'd recommend Gungnir Alpha (4U) and Beta (3U). Truly stiff and head light.


    From Yonex, you'd be looking at the upcoming Duo 8XP, NR900 and perhaps Arc 11. And maybe the upcoming AX88D if it comes in 4U version.
    [​IMG]
     
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    What in the world... AX77 is more head heavy than DZS?

    Weird that 88D is not similarly placed as 80et.
     
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    Actually i feel Arcsaber 11 is one of the top racket, but problem will arise once overshot above 26 tension , whereas recommended tension states at 24 only. In my opinion , top even balance racket now are.

    1. Arcsaber 11. (Many Intl players still using)
    2. Jetspeed 10 & M. (Malaysia & korea players using)
    3. Jetspeed 12, (Malaysia & Indo players using)
    4. Brave sword 12 . Hyun using. Will slowly die off
    5. HX 900. (Wang Tze wei and Korea players using)
     
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    Mate. Ignore the 800. I highly doubt that whatever Pederson/Juhl used to run were regular NR800s. Those things cannot survive past 28lbs. I'd say go for the 900. It's properly stiff enough. Well and truly even balanced though. But damn that frame is pretty impressive. I've run one through 30/32lbs a couple of months ago and the only thing I felt suffered was the grommets.

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    Mark A Regular Member

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    Tbh the 900 is the way I'm leaning. Just wish I could find one to borrow for a week or two.

    Gungnir Beta is an interesting one, though - a lot cheaper and the looks are up my street. I didn't know it was a headlight - can anybody give me a dry balance?
     
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    Would be nice to compare between the Beta and 900. I'd prefer the beta personally but that's because of the frame.

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    3U vs. 3U true, 2U vs. 4U false.

    @Ferrerkiko please update your list. Mostly from 2016 or earlier and a bit rubbish.
     
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    Beta dry specs
    87.2g total,
    37.6g head weight,
    296mm bp
    (but keep in mind Gungnir series rackets are extra long at 680mm, ie handle is 5mm longer than usual, so corrected would be 291mm bp)
     
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    NR900 (old colour) is tugging my rug more and more. Same price as the Gosen from Winston.

    And I get paid next week... do I really need that new graphics card...?
     
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    I had discuss with my oversea friend , we came to a conclusion that in terms of fastest racket speed , drive and tap are as follows:

    1. Victor Jetspeed 10 .
    2. Brave Sword 12
    3. Jetspeed 12 F (F refers to fast in Asia)
    4. Arcsaber 11
    5. Victor HX 900
    6. Jetspeed 12
     
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    No. The shiny new racket takes priority.In fact, if you’re ever unsure about this subject again, I hope you can use this post as a reference:

    Basic car for daily chores or racket? Racket.
    Three meals per day or racket? Racket. 2 ain’t gonna kill me.
    Anniversary gift for the better half or racket? Racket.
    A new phone that I need to replace my dead iPhone or racket? Racket.
    Pay the internet, phone and electricity bill or racket? Racket.

    It all becomes clear after a bit.
     
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    Mark A Regular Member

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    OK - no internet bill this month. I'll just go online and order this ra...

    Feck.
     
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    Depends on the GPU you currently have.
     

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