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Stop jumping, start smashing!

Discussion in 'Techniques / Training' started by jerby, Aug 10, 2006.

  1. jerby

    jerby Regular Member

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    Season starting again. god bless my club for starting as one of the earliest in the country.
    My coach (good coach, i think so...) saw me smashing and started talking I was arm-smashing. and I need to sue my shoulder more. well, ok, I change, I smash harder. Good job coach, just a regualr insta-improvement I've been havign since I started training udner his guidance (;))

    then he noticed my footwork in my smash....What I basically do is jump up 3mm (overstatement) and do a scissorskick. right foot forward, left foot back, and then go threw all the hips/shoulder/arm/elbow/wirst/fingers timing.
    He told me "you kick your left leg back in stead of kicking your right forward" then I thought "meh ok, piece of cake, so unconsciencously I mix in a higher jump to kick forward more"
    he asks me to stop, talks a bit, talks alot. what came out was basically that I should 'push off' with my right foot, going forward. In stead of doing a scissors kick.

    And I must say...there was a boom...
    I'm not saying to stop jumping, It's still very usefull. But for the raw powersmash (given you're in postion) there's much mroe power to get from 'pushing off' with your right foot..

    Though every time I smash I feel like I can go a little harder....I'm addicted:p

    edit..darn I mispelled the title.. it's "Stop"
     
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    wood_22_chuck Regular Member

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    Thanks for sharing, jerby, good advice.

    -dave
     
  3. jamesd20

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    There is a huge amount of difference in the power of your smash if you can be behind the shuttle and moving into it, rather than under the shuttle and hit stationary or even moving back.
     
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    that is why footwork is so important. Footwork is not just about moving body around efficienty;)
     
  5. jerby

    jerby Regular Member

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    well, that was the fun/weird part.

    I wás behind the shuttle. and I did throw in my (however little) weight. it's just that the 'push' from my right leg gave more power. it's very weird. but try it out.

    Cooler, I can't really call this footwork. I feel it's more a stroke technique. Who said strokes are done with the upper body?;)
     
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    Me. That's because that's all I can do. :p
     
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    The amazing thing is at the international level where players can jump back from the center court and transfer thier backwards movement into forward momentum for the smash.
     
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    You require very strong abdominal and back muscles. Their body does not move forward, in real terms, but movement from waist upwards forwards.

    You need to practice having the correct posture when making the initial movment to enable you to do this, and land with your weight leaning forward to recover to the centre quicker. It is a combination of movements that require great strength.
     
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    eh..you haven't told us if you are right-handed or left-handed...Racket-hand and "dominant" foot are connected
     
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    It is neddless to say whether he is lefty or righty.It is clear from the description.
     
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    It can be told by the description "push forward on the right foot" that he is a righthander, however buntamarui is right that Racket arm/leg and non-racket arm/leg are clearer descriptions.
     
  12. jerby

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    erm, yes...a real righty...sorry...what weirdass left hits with his right foot back?:D:p

    this sounds like a ncie thread to start my second tip of the week (from the same coach..who wants me to speed up)
    Tall men mostly (/only) you can reach your around the head in 2 steps!
    I was told that for an ath (aroudn the head) your start with a left step (chasse, left foot towards the rearcourt) then turn over (get your right foottowards teh rearcourt) then do a scissors jump.
    however...If I leave the chasse step. and just get my rioghtfoot back and then a scissors jump I can get ány fast clear/lob in just two steps.

    only the lobs that go high can go beyond it (or if I mesh up..of course;)) but then your can just 'walk' back and hit the ath like a regular forehand...
     
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    This is deviating slightly, but the first method you mentioned is an old method used as it enabled the decision to take it either around the head or on the backhand later, since after your first chasse motion you could either turn around and hit backhand, or pivot to the round the head movement. Most nowadays do it in two steps (even women) although some women add a chasse step after they have pivoted.

    Anyway, sticking to the subject you have learnt a good lesson.
     
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    yes, I really have learned a lesson. I thought I'd share. same for the second lesson.
    my second lesson though, now you mentioned it, is more a correction from my old-school trainer/coach (ie, my father. and my mixed-partners farther:D :p )
     
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    turn the other way around...turn clockwise:p

    the heaviest smash will be the smash where you get most of your body behind the shuttle. so in my vieuw: no... a sissors jump 'negates' the backwards movement. but contributes very little to the power in your stroke..if you can stand behind the shuttle and then jump or step forward it's boudn to be more powerful..imho..
     

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