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Stringerkey

Discussion in 'Badminton Stringing Techniques & Tools' started by icewater888, Jul 5, 2014.

  1. icewater888

    icewater888 Regular Member

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    Has anyone tried Stringerkey?

    http://www.stringerkey.com/

    It is a tool to help with the weaving the cross strings.
    I've just ordered one on their website.

    It seems like a good idea.
     
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    Sorry but waeving without that tool a lof of faster...
    If you get this tool you can make a better video.
     
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    Looks slow, and it does not help a stringer learn to do it the proper and fast way. So anyone who starts off will be handicap by this tool forever until he throw it away and learn the proper way to weave.
     
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    It is like having a child not learn to walk but instead learn to move around with a motorised wheelchair. Yes it is easier but he will never use his legs and will be forever as slow as a wheelchair.
     
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    I wonder if you can get really efficient and quick with the tool, up to the point where it may be as quick or if not quicker than hand weaving?
     
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    That's so slow.
     
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    The hand weaving may take you 3-5 second each time after ..........say 50 rackets stringing-experience, but with this tool, it will take well over 5 seconds no matter how experience you are.... I am totally with Kwun.
     
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    Novel idea, but weaving crosses is best done by hand. With lots of practice you should be faster than the tool. Be patient and in time you will weave crosses consistently (no mis-weaves) and quickly.
     
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    Faster for beginners but slower as you gain more experience. Just see the vids of AK, crosses can be done in 3 seconds!! He can also do it eye's closed :eek:
     
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    This looks good but only for the occasional stringer. Anyone else who strings and have experience will be faster by hand.
     
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    Lol this is like crippling yourself when you're trying to learn how to string. I wouldn't recommend using a tool like this if you want to become a better stringer.
     
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    The fastest hand-weaver will certainly beat the faster Key-weaver:).

    The next step would be to build a sewing-machine type thing to sit above the racket and thread everything in one second...
     
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    Weaving is truly an art. Watching Kakinami and others on youtube is fun and I like to think I've learned a lot from them.
     
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    i haven't seen any gadget that truly helps making cross weaving any better. some makes it "easier" like what the OP has, but unfortunately it is so slow you end up standing there 10 more minutes longer which doesn't make it worthwhile at all.

    unfortunately, the best way to do it is still the old fashion way, weave with your fingers and using some smarter technique like soft weave will help a lot in that regard.

    [video=youtube;uI6vStY2RCk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI6vStY2RCk[/video]
     
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    One-weave ahead is the closest thing to cheating when it comes to stringing:)
     
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    Mark and others, please elaborate what are the advantages of having one-weave ahead. thanks.
     
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    Watch kwun's video. That should explain it.
     
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    I tried this one.

    Using threads I could not get it to work. Because of the tighter spacing of the mains the thread would no pull through easily, so I adapted the "trick" and used 2 leftover pieces of string. I tied them into 2 intertwined loops and weaved one end. You can now used the weaved looped to pull it through and use the other loop to pull the first loop back again.

    It works great, but.....

    It only works in one direction.

    When I'm doing a manual weave on a "full-cross", so weaving all mains, I need about 9~10 seconds max, 7~8 if it goes perfectly.

    With the string loops I have to put the thread into the loop, pull it through, take it out, and pull the loop back. This takes 3 seconds max.

    So I save 7 seconds max on about 11 full-crosses. So ((11/2)=6 times 7 seconds) 42 seconds saved total on a total string job of about 35~40 minutes (I take my time, and even pull out strings if the outer crossing is not to my liking).

    These 42 seconds saved are somewhat less because I lose some time on an occasional interference with my string (you have these loops hanging from the stringbed).

    So timewise, it's not something which helps a great deal. The only reason for using this trick for me (I'll give it a few more tries) is it saves 50% of the most tedious activity during stringing. I do not like the weaving part, and just pulling the string through feels good ;)
     

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