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Discussion in 'Badminton Stringing Techniques & Tools' started by gavias, Dec 8, 2006.

  1. gavias

    gavias Regular Member

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    I have an AT500. I used a nanogy 95 with 22lbs (mains) and 24lbs (crosses). the method used was this:

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    The problem was that I used to the cross start the fisherman knot, as you can see below:

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    After the conclusion of the stringing process, this knot passed to the inside of the gormmet and is grabed to the main string. Do you think that this could be a problem?
     

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    The picture in the first link is broken.
     
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    Huh? Picture please. Don't quite understand.
     
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    I think what he is trying to say is that when he tensioned the first cross, his starting knot tightened such that the "bulge" is completely inside the grommet

    Correct?
     
  5. gavias

    gavias Regular Member

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    I have posted 2 pictures: one is the racket with the string method advised by Yonex; the second has the fisherman knot used to the cross start (B6 position).

    Yes, the bulge is inside the gormmet.

    The URL first picture is:
    http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=26801&stc=1&d=1165605298

    The second is:

    http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=26802&stc=1&d=1165606792
     
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    I'm referring to the picture of your problem, the actual picture. In any case, It's not that big of a deal. No worries. :)
     
  7. gavias

    gavias Regular Member

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    I can assure that the fisherman knot has been done correctly. This means that the most recomended knot is the double, write?
     
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    You are not understanding the request. Doesn't matter if you did the knot correctly, we want to see an image of your "problem" so we can try to ascertain the problem, if any.

    I don't do those recommended knots because of problems that might arise. I do, depending on the grommet hole size, a two or three modified half knots where I have more control and flexibility.
     
  9. gavias

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    Sorry, now I understood. I don't have the possibility of to do a picture :(

    My distrust is about the possibility that the main string in which the knot has been done in B6 position, could be with more tension. If the knot was outside the grommet the pressure will be done there. But like this the pressure is being done in the string that passes in B6 position. I don't know if this could be a problem.
     
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    It's not a big deal. If you truly feel there's a problem, then cut the string and redo. If not, then just play as is. :)
     
  11. gavias

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    This kind of "problem" already happen to you (in the begining, because now you are a specialist) or to someone that you know?
     
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    Of course I've had these problems in the past. That's why I avoid them now.

    It's really not a big deal. If worse comes to worst, just cut the string.

    You are thinking too much. :p
     
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    gavias:

    You can try a couple of things:

    1. Instead of two loops, do 3, 4 or even 5 to bulk up the knot even more. Especially with thinner strings on some racquets where the shared holes are quite generous.
    2. Additionally, when you pull the first cross (that's anchored by the starting knot) try holding on to tail with a starting clamp. In a sense, you'd be tightening the knot from both ends. Of course, it helps if you don't cut the tail off after you tie the knot.
    FWIW, HTH.
     
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    Quasi: good advice. In addtion (this is what I do) when you tie the first knot, try to seat it above the grommet, to the edge so it sits on top of the grommet. This way, when you let go, it'll have minimal movement.



     
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    Thank you for the advices. I must confesse that I was very annoyed with this. The racket is new, was very difficult to get the nanogy 95 (at least quickly, without use the e-commerce), I searched a good stringing machine (electronic babolat), and I had to wait 2H 20m (yes, without exaggerate) for the stringing process, because the stringer had very dificulty in passing the string through the grommets. Here where I live, it's not easy to find a good stringer.
     
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    I have detected, that at the top of the frame where one of the clamps of the babolat stringing machine was, there is a small furrow, is the mark of the clamp; the frame at this zone is slightly smashed. At this point a small portion of paint came out. The store is going to give me the money.

    Now I couldn't anymore string this racket in the majority (I suppose) of the electronic stringing machines, because normaly those machines have clamps for the top interior and for the T zone, and it is here that the pressure is made. This machines don't use suportes for the top and for the T zone like the manual ones.
     
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    I know at my local store, they use babolat and prince electronic strining machines which have no issues. They are experienced stringers.

    When I get my rackets done by them, I specifically ask them to do it on the Prince Neo 1000 strining machine (a crank strining machine). Mainly for consistancy of the tention which I ask for. Plus the stringers can stringer faster on that compared to the electronic due to the nature of the electronic machine.
     
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    The electronic babolat machine where the problem happened, has 6 support points. The stringer needed to relieve one of the lateral clamps, because she was with difficult in inserting the string at that zone. Instead of loosen that clamp, she press the top clamp. So, wasn't a problem of the machine, but if it was a manual machine, probably the supports are, in some cases, better. In the case of babolat, when the calibration is below 98%, the machine will not work.
     
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    I am confused by when you say the stringer has to relieve one of the lateral clamps. Are you talking about the side-support arm that is holding the racquet? The clamps are for holding the strings.

    If you stringer "pressed" the top clamp (head support) to loosen stretch your frame in order to access the blocked grommet hole, she is 100% liable and she doesn't know how to string. She is totally incompetent!!! The 12 or 6 o'clock of your racquet will suffer permanent damage.

     
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    oh no way, that's just a bad way to string. She can't treat badminton rackets like tennis rackets.
     

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