Silentheart, I would like to understand your role in this discussion? Anyway by playing the opposition you invite me to explain more about the tool. The question is why you doubt my text: - If I say I put in all crosses from the bottom, you say I have to weave the first one by hand. - If I say you can use the tool until 3 to 4 you say 4 to 5. As I show in the picture you enter the first cross string at the throat also with the tool. Weaving the free strings at each side goes very automatically going under – over for the first and over under for the last one. I did not put it through the holes because it was suggested earlier in this discussion to measure only the weaving time. I have been in quite some discussions about the cross stringers and I have learnt that part of the stringers in the discussion only use the discussion to tell how fast they are. So Yulitle weaves a tennis cross in 5 seconds. This tool does a badminton cross in 10,2 seconds. And you do it faster? Wow, you must be fast because others in this discussion said it took them 12 to 15 seconds!