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Taufik Hidayat's Attitude and Opinion about the All England

Discussion in 'Indonesia Professional Players' started by repentedboy, Jul 20, 2012.

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  1. pjswift

    pjswift Regular Member

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    Haven t you noticed CHN players collapse mentally in the last three tournaments recently? Do the research. Some were even top seeded to win!
     
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    Be happy with your thoughts of LD. But you only joined BC recently. To understand how LD won most of his titles, you gotta go back to 2005? When he became WR1 and had to be seen to win all like a WR1. Before SS, players from same country would be equally slotted on both halves. So LD would have at least a teammate in each semi final. The teammate facing him would play a fake match. The other teammate would drain his SF non-CHN opponent if he could not defeat him. Come SS, there is no distinct country allocation and some draws would have lop sided CHN MS, leaving LD unescorted during late stage when he needed them most. That s why, during the early days of SS, LD avoided participation. Check it out. BC has, perhaps, the richest tournament data to tap, definitely better than BWF. If you can t face the facts, then just be happy with your vision of LD. It s your pleasure. So too for others, with their idea of greatest.
     
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    you turn words of others just how it fits your purpose..no desire to discuss with somebody like that

    your assumptions of the result of "my logic" are complete nonsense

    there can only be one winner / tournament but there are always a few or even a lot of people capable of it

    taufik only played this tournament (i wont count exactly) lets say 7-10 times in his prime in his life
    in this timespan there were some other supergood players

    nothing special to not win this particular tournament
    maybe he also does not feel good in england..for whatever reason and therefore had problems with his performance, other players may experience the opposite and are able to "overperform" there


    to you he is giving excuse, ok..for me, he does not give a **** about what ppl like you are thinking about him because it is stupid anyway
    he won so much and also he can be happy to have won the gold medal in athens (since you only get the chance every 4 years and its by far the most important tournament)
    why would he bother that he randomly did not win allengland

    it is not like he was dominating everybody for years, even for his skill he can be happy with what (how much) he won
     
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    Dude enough. I set this thread up to talk and discuss about the issue raised by Taufik's words about one tournament the ALl England.

    Another attack and defamation of another player irrelevant to this thread. I am going to complain and escalate this to Mods.

    We are trying to debate and clash opinions openly as to whether Taufik said about the All England is approriate or inapproriate and there you go again with your rhetorics of Taufik is naturally the greatest because he doesnt need assists this and that and there you go AGAIN, bringing Lin Dan into the picture.

    Cc: Justin L
     
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    Understandable. Some like to carry balls and some just like the underdogs. ;)
     
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    You mean you call the shots just because you start a warped thread? You don t realise you and your partner have been attacking and defaming other players in your own style? You want a list of all the posts of you and your partner where you attack and defame other players? Both of you are relative newbies. Some BC history reading will do you both good.
     
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    Mods, close this thread.
     
  8. AlanY

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    how can you rated TH behind LCW? If LCW achieved half as TH's, Malaysia as a country will stop functioning as every single day will be a national holiday.
     
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    Well with all due respect, LCW does prove a good point to be rated in front of TH.

    Among the four, who has contributed the most in the Super Series and Premier era ? It's downright LCW at the time when efforts and money are spent to popularise badminton. It was him who has been playing the most active role and winning the titles without discriminating any tournament status.

    Additionally, you cant argue that he is not as good because he has proven from his track record that he has reached the finals of every major tournament and finished with a medal; not empty handed.

    As the most successful player in the Super Series era with 42 career titles, I will say he has done enough to earn one rating ahead of TH whom btw has only managed one SS in the last six SS seasons. If you look it from this perspective.
     
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    If achievements in badminton is equivalent to public holidays, then I can understand why you longed for it so much.
     
  11. Justin L

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    Mister,you better watch what you said. I loathe to dignify you and your ilk with a reply. Now you even shamelessly,unjustifiably,groundlessly hurl wild allegations,malicious accusations that I "attack and defame other players" - PROVE IT or else I take you for a snivelling coward, a shameless liar, a barefaced hypocrite who can only hide behind the cloak of anonymity to slander,attack and defame others, a dastardly act which you've proven to be most capable of time and again.

    Moderators, I call for his ban for brazenly and repeatedly violating this forum's rules.
     
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    It shouldn't have been allowed to progress after Cheung's post.
     
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    I would rather have an Olympic Gold medal, a full set medals from the world championships and be Asian Games gold medalist as opposed to having countless super series titles... Just saying.
     
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    Huh, he cc you. As in MD, KKK is TBH s partner? Maybe you can find a better word.
     
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    Hi Alan, I understand my rating is somewhat controversial,take it that it's purely my personal opinion. As a friendly exchange of views, an explanation for it is in order as follows:

    1) Taufik was fortunate to peak at the head end of Lin Dan's rise, meaning if his rise were to coincide with LD as in Lee CW's case, I wonder how many major titles Taufik would get to win;

    2) Taufik's era more or less overlaps Lin Dan's and Lee CW's, so the three often play against each other, making a reasonably objective comparison of their relative skills quite possible;

    3) for the last 4 years since the Beijing 2008 Olympics, during which time Taufik was and is still actively playing, only Lee CW comes close to matching Lin Dan in performance with virtually both of them contesting all the major championships - in fact,the two are in a class of their own until very recently.

    We can agree to disagree, perfectly fine by me,thank you.
     
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    Your nickname says it all.
     
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    I cc him because you are practically accusing him of doing something which he didnt do and you have no evidence to back it up.

    I am still waiting for Mods to close this thread.
     
  18. LD rules!

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    Don't get me wrong I am a LD fan, however I've always admired Taufik. Whenever there is a tournament I always wish that LD and TH are in different sides of the draw because I wish them to compete in the final together.

    Taufik is no doubt my second favourite player after Lin Dan. I don't get all the critics about Taufik. He's achieved so much, and he doesn't have anything to prove anymore. Let him enjoy his game and play how he wants. He has a family and kids that's more important than badminton now, let's just enjoy the time he has left on the international courts okay?
     
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    It's not about TH anymore. All hell broke loose when the threats to LD being the greatest arises.
     
  20. Justin L

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    Oh my gosh,just because he cc that post to me makes me guilty by association???!!!:D

    Why don't you cc all your posts to me to claim my partnership?

    I remember telling you before that I'd appreciate you don't talk to me. You claim to be a high class,high standard personality, at least have the decency and self-respect to grant my personal request and stop "harassing" me. Why are you so fond of me that you must deign to elevate me to your high status? Am I supposed to feel honoured? Is this how a noble person should conduct himself?

    From now on,in fact from then on,you are in my "Ignore List" - have I made myself clear? Thanks,but no thanks.
     
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