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Terms used when we talk about Badminton Techniques and Training (Strokes/Shots)

Discussion in 'Techniques / Training' started by chris-ccc, Aug 2, 2010.

  1. chris-ccc

    chris-ccc Regular Member

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    The difference between pushing and driving a shuttlecock

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    I was thinking of giving examples for comparing the difference between Pushing and Driving a shuttlecock.

    Pushing is a gentler movement (almost at a constant velocity/movement); while Driving is hard and fast (like punching), an accelerated movement.

    Perhaps, this example may explain it clearer: I push you face- vs-I punch your face.
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    Haha! Not clearer but it does help! :D Thanks!

    Thanks, too, Gollum for your explanation. "Net drive" sounds cool! I'll use that too!
     
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    chris-ccc Regular Member

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    It is important to explain what we are talking about

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    Agree. :):):)

    The different terminology used in different countries and/or used by different coaches may mean the same thing, but termed/coined differently. That's why we thought we should start this thread to describe what we mean (as commonly used from our special corners of the world).

    It is important to explain what we are talking about; whether we are talking about the;
    * Stroke = How a player executes a shot. It relates to our stroke production. It describes our body action, or the
    * Shot = How the shuttlecock travels. It describes the trajectory of the path taken by the shuttlecock.

    Let's talk more about terms in describing the Strokes (the hitting action). Basically, there are 4 actions (based on the movement for how we move/swing the racket-head), namely;
    * Hit = Movement with an acceleration with the swing of the racket-head
    * Soften/Absorb = Movement with a deceleration with the swing of the racket-head
    * Push = Movement with a constant speed with the swing of the racket-head
    * Block = Movement with no or little swing of the racket-head

    We also need to describe if the is a follow-through with our swing. There are so many, namely;
    * Swing it = With follow-through
    * Slap it = With follow-through
    * Smash it = With follow-through
    * Swipe it = With follow-through
    * Stoke it = With follow-through
    * Sweep it = With follow-through
    * Flick it = With follow-through
    * Hammer it = With follow-through
    * Bang it = With follow-through
    * Bash it = With follow-through
    * Push it = With follow-through
    * etc, etc, ......

    Then, we come across such terms as;
    * Tap it = With little or no follow-through
    * Block it = With little or no follow-through
    * Tip it = With little or no follow-through
    * Dab it = With little or no follow-through
    * etc. etc, ......

    We also come across such terms when we hit the side of the cork of the shuttlecock, namely;
    * Rotate it
    * Spin it
    * Slice it
    * Tumble it
    * Wobble it
    * etc. etc, ......

    From a post from keith.roche (Post #4), it was the first time I have heard of a "Dribble" at Badminton. :):):)

    But we are not to say whether we are wrong or right; but to say that we use different terms/words to describe how we hit/play a shot.
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    I was coached by someone who was a coach at Badminton Association of Maldives, and he attended his coaching programme or whatever at India. And being an Indian, I can say that, all coachs and players from India knows what a " dribble " is . :D
    It was new to me when I started, but now the term is familiar. ( All throughout the region )

    It would be something like this :

    NETSHOT
    1. Dribble
    2. Tap / Kill
    3. Net Drive
    4. Spinning Net shots


    Net shot is too huge of a term to describe the exact stroke. So, this is how it goes at the Indian subcontinent.
     
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    chris-ccc Regular Member

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    I am still not clear about the Dribble

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    After reading various posts about the Net Tap/Kill, Drive and Spin shots (from other threads), I can get an understanding what these shots look like and how they are done. But for the Dribble, I am still not clear.

    Can you describe its shot trajectory and also how the stroke production is performed? :eek::eek::eek:
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    Boleh

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    Received message to include "Boleh". :D:D:D

    * Boleh = "Yes, we can" in Malaysian. It is yelled/cheered to players to encourage them to play better
    * Slice = A shot made when we hit the side of the cork of the shuttlecock. Slice Smash and Slice Dropshot are most common
    * Block = A shot hit by a racket-head swung with little or no movement at all. A Block Return of a Smash is most common
    * Push = A shot hit by a racket-head swung at constant velocity. A Doubles Low Service can be performed with a Push
    * XD Push Shot = Pushing the shuttlecock to the Side Tram Lines; directing it to fall between the front and the back players
    * Jia You = "Add Fuel" in Chinese (Mandarin). It is yelled/cheered to players to become stronger physically and mentally
    * Drive Return of Smash = A shot driven back quickly before our opponent is ready to intercept or to return it
    * Drive Service = A Service that is hit hard and fast, hoping to pass past a receiver before he/she is ready to intercept it
    * Deception = To fool and/or to wrong foot our opponent. Make him/her think we are executing this shot when we are playing another shot
    * Base Position = (For Singles Games) is the middle position between the net and the back line, and the middle position between the side lines
    * Defensive Clear = An overhead or underarm Clear executed to our opponent's Back Tram Lines; allowing us more time to return to our base position
    * Punch Clear = An overhead Clear executed to just clear over the highest reach that can be met by our opponent.
    * Spinning Netplay = A shot played near the net to our opponent's Fore Court, creating the shuttlecock to spin (rotating) over the net
    * Tumble = A shot played near the net to the our opponent's Fore Court, creating the shuttlecock to somersault once or more times over the net
    * Dropshot = A shot played from our overhead position to the Fore Court of our opponent's court
    * Dribble = Any shot played from ones' own forecourt to the opponents' forecourt with the shuttle passing in close proximity to the net tape.
    * Lift = A Clear which is played from an underarm stroke
    * Clear = Any shot played high (higher than the racket head held high) to our opponent
    * Service = The first stroke or shot played in a rally.
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJ5zO0T9jgk

    Everything in that is a dribble... some are spinning ones... but all relates to the definition " Any shot played from ones' own forecourt to the opponents' forecourt with the shuttle passing in close proximity to the net tape. "
     
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    ...in other words, a net shot. :p
     
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    ........Amen...... :p
     
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    Dribble = Hit the shuttlecock softly

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    They use Dribble in Baseball; where Dribble = To hit a baseball so that it bounces slowly.
    So, we have borrowed the term when we hit the shuttlecock softly.
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    Cut

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    Received message to include the "Cut". :D:D:D

    * Cut = Slice; A shot made when we hit the side of the cork of the shuttlecock.
    * Boleh = "Yes, we can" in Malaysian. It is yelled/cheered to players to encourage them to play better
    * Slice = A shot made when we hit the side of the cork of the shuttlecock. Slice Smash and Slice Dropshot are most common
    * Block = A shot hit by a racket-head swung with little or no movement at all. A Block Return of a Smash is most common
    * Push = A shot hit by a racket-head swung at constant velocity. A Doubles Low Service can be performed with a Push
    * XD Push Shot = Pushing the shuttlecock to the Side Tram Lines; directing it to fall between the front and the back players
    * Jia You = "Add Fuel" in Chinese (Mandarin). It is yelled/cheered to players to become stronger physically and mentally
    * Drive Return of Smash = A shot driven back quickly before our opponent is ready to intercept or to return it
    * Drive Service = A Service that is hit hard and fast, hoping to pass past a receiver before he/she is ready to intercept it
    * Deception = To fool and/or to wrong foot our opponent. Make him/her think we are executing this shot when we are playing another shot
    * Base Position = (For Singles Games) is the middle position between the net and the back line, and the middle position between the side lines
    * Defensive Clear = An overhead or underarm Clear executed to our opponent's Back Tram Lines; allowing us more time to return to our base position
    * Punch Clear = An overhead Clear executed to just clear over the highest reach that can be met by our opponent.
    * Spinning Netplay = A shot played near the net to our opponent's Fore Court, creating the shuttlecock to spin (rotating) over the net
    * Tumble = A shot played near the net to the our opponent's Fore Court, creating the shuttlecock to somersault once or more times over the net
    * Dropshot = A shot played from our overhead position to the Fore Court of our opponent's court
    * Dribble = Any shot played from ones' own forecourt to the opponents' forecourt with the shuttle passing in close proximity to the net tape.
    * Lift = A Clear which is played from an underarm stroke
    * Clear = Any shot played high (higher than the racket head held high) to our opponent
    * Service = The first stroke or shot played in a rally.
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    Placement shots?
    Half smash?
    Over the head/Round the head?

    ..i was going to mention it but glad you added "Boleh" to the list..:cool:
     
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    Lob = a Lift played from the forecourt, close to the net ?

    "Base Position = (For Singles Games) is the middle position between the net and the back line, and the middle position between the side lines"
    That definition is not so popular in DK, at least not anymore, it is more common to talk about a "floating Base", depending on how the game evolve!
     
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    Placement Shot

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    What is a "Placement Shot"?

    Is this term commonly used in the USA?

    Since a shot describes where the shuttlecock is directed (or placed) somewhere, is there a specific area of the court that a "Placement Shot" is targeted to?
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    Half smash

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    To some, "Half Smash" = A smash (shot) made with reduced power/speed; causing the shuttlecock to land nearer to the Service line of the opponents' court, than to the middle.

    To some, "Half Smash" = "Sliced/Cut Smash" = A smash (stroke) hit at the side of the shuttlecock (to cause the feathers to rotate); therefore causing the trajectory of the shot to dip down suddenly.
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    Overhead Stroke

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    A stroke made "Over the head" is commonly called an "Overhead Stroke".

    A "Round the Head" stroke is usually meant to hit an "Overhead Stroke" in a forehand manner, even though the point of impact made with the shuttlecock is high above the head at the backhand space of a player.
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    A Lift is usually played from the forecourt

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    In Tennis, from any area of our court, most players can lift/lob a Tennis ball high up in the air, causing it to land at the back of our opponents' court.

    In Badminton, most players cannot lift/lob a shuttlecock high up in the air causing it to land at the back of our opponents' court, if we played it from the back of our court. Therefore, a "quality" lift/lob in Badminton is usually played from our forecourt, close to the net.
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    Floating Base

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    Would like to know the concept of the "Floating Base".

    Our "Base Position" is usually referred to the position centrally located, which is at equal distances to all the 4 corners of our court.
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    I think it refers to the idea that you adjust your base position according to the situation, instead of going back to the same place every time. For example, if you've just played a very tight net shot then you might stay closer to the front. Gollum talks about such things at badmintonbible.com although I don't think he uses the word "floating".
     
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    Hope to find a clearer explanation of the term "Floating Base"

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    That is one of the reasons for starting this thread.

    There are many terms, used in different countries and/or used by different coaches, which are not familiar to many of us BCers.

    Hope to find a clearer explanation of the term "Floating Base".
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