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Torture or training? See how CHINA 'train' their future olympic stars.

Discussion in 'LONDON 2012 non-badminton events / discussion' started by george@chongwei, Aug 2, 2012.

  1. george@chongwei

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    Read the article below. This is really torturing indeed. How could they train and torture them since they were young?:crying: This is really sad and disturbing.. This is what we called 'communist' style of training and obsessed of getting gold medal at the olympic games... SUCH A SHAME...:crying::rolleyes:
    No wonder china athletes is really good at diving, gymnastic, swimming, shooting and almost every sport of the OG. No surprise to see that 16 year old ye shi wen manage to broke the world record...


    [h=1]Torture or training? Inside the brutal Chinese gymnasium where the country's future Olympic stars are beaten into shape[/h]

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-legs-young-boys-hang-bars.html#ixzz22SU0sNZp


    • Nanning Gymnasium in Nanning, China, is one of many ruthless training camps in China
    • Here children, some as young as five, battle to complete the demanding routines on bars, rings, and mats

     
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    This article says it all. If you are too lazy the whole article, pictures surely speaks a thousand words:crying::(

    Her face etched with pain, a child trains for Olympic glory while her gymnastics trainer stands on her legs.
    The cartoon space rockets and animal astronauts on her tiny red leotard are a stark and powerful reminder of this little girl's tender age as she trains as hard as any adult athlete in the Western world. (this is too much:()

    Nanning Gymnasium in Nanning, China, is one of many ruthless training camps across the country to which parents send their children to learn how to be champions.

    [​IMG] Hard training: Her face etched with pain, a child trains for Olympic glory while her gymnastics trainer stands on her legs.


    But while training techniques appear extreme to Western eyes, they provide an insight into why China's athletes at London 2012 seem so easily able to swim, dive, lift and shoot their way to victory.
    Gymnastic stars are known for starting at an incredibly early age, and this group of children appear no different as they battled to complete the demanding routines on bars, rings, and mats.
     
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    Boys and girls who looked no older than five or six-years-old were tasked with swinging on beams, hanging from pairs of rings and bounding across floor mats during the physically strenuous training sessions.
    [​IMG] Ruthless: Boys and girls who looked no older than five or six-years-old were tasked with swinging on beams, hanging from pairs of rings and bounding across floor mats during the physically strenuous training sessions

    [​IMG] Growing strong: Nanning Gymnasium in Nanning, China, is one of many ruthless training camps across the country to which parents send their children to learn how to be champions







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    Going for gold: While training techniques appear extreme to Western eyes, they provide an insight into why China's athletes at London 2012 seem so easily able to swim, dive, lift and shoot their way to victory




    [​IMG] Stretchy: Gymnastic stars are known for starting at an incredibly early age, and this group of children appear no different as they battled to complete the demanding routines on bars, rings, and mats

    The youngsters at the same training school will be hoping to emulate the success of 16-year-old swimming sensation Ye Shewin, who glided into the record books on Saturday night.
    Only last January harrowing photographs were posted on the internet showing Chinese children crying in pain as they were put to work.
    In case they had forgotten why they were there, a large sign on the wall reminded them. ‘GOLD’ it said simply.
    Charges are often taught by rote that their mission in life is to beat the Americans and all-comers to the top of the podium.
    (army style training or COMMUNIST style of training?)
    [​IMG] 24/7 routine: A child stretches at home during a gymnastics training session in Nanning, China





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    To the top: Charges are often taught by rote that their mission in life is to beat the Americans and all-comers to the top of the podium



    [​IMG] No nonsense: The trainers are tough on the children who go through rigorous training schedules



    [​IMG] Home time: Children wait for their parents after completing a gymnastics training session in Nanning


    [​IMG] Ye Shiwen astounded the swimming world by knocking more than a second off the world record for the 400m individual medley



    [​IMG] Mission accomplished: Miss Ye poses with her gold medal on the podium. Ye insists that her 'results come from hard work and training'

    [​IMG] Winning at all costs: Children are put through their paces doing punishing exercises to toughen them up


    [​IMG] Children are trained at camps where the word 'gold' is hung on the wall to make them focus on success



    [​IMG] Young boys and girls are put through their paces at the Chen Jinglun Sports School, the alma mater of Ye Shiwen



    [​IMG] The school also trained Sun Yang, who won the 400m freestyle at London 2012

    [​IMG] Ye's team-mate, 23-year-old Lu Ying, this week attacked China's grindingly repetitive coaching regime


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    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2182127/How-China-trains-children-win-gold--standing-girls-legs-young-boys-hang-bars.html#ixzz22SUVtjsz

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2182127/How-China-trains-children-win-gold--standing-girls-legs-young-boys-hang-bars.html?ICO=most_read_module
     
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    george@chongwei Regular Member

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    And here is the story behind Ye shi wen, the 16 year old teen sensation who broke the world record and swims faster than the opposite *** gender:eek:
    Her parents labeled it as Cruelty and our little mermaid
     
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    [h=1]Cruelty and our little mermaid: Chinese swim sensation Ye Shiwen's parents tell of brutal training, sobbing phone calls and how she has always been mistaken for a boy[/h]
    • Her father: 'She has often been turned away from female changing rooms'
    • From age of 11-14, Ye had to surrender her mobile to the Communist Party so she could devote herself to glory of the country
    • She won 50 medals before she was ten

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...How-Ye-Shiwen-mistaken-boy.html#ixzz22SV4dgBo

    At only 16, she demolished older rivals – matching the times of male swimmers – to become the sensation of the Olympics.

    But last night the parents of double gold medal winner Ye Shiwen conceded there was a ‘cruel’ side to their daughter’s astonishing success.

    They revealed that the 16-year-old supergirl is liable to burst into tears when she calls them from her pink mobile phone during rare breaks in her gruelling training regime.

    And of her phenomenal strength, her father confessed: ‘Many times she has been turned away from the female changing rooms because she is mistaken for a boy. She likes to wear her hair short, to avoid as much as possible having to wear a swimming cap.’

    [​IMG] Chinese Olympic champion Ye Shiwen is seen here, aged nine, with a haul of medals from a local competition in Hangzhou - only three years after learning to swim



    [​IMG] Baby Ye would go on to achieve Olympic glory at the age of 16, albeit shrouded in allegations of doping

    His wife could not resist adding: ‘I think she would be prettier with longer hair.’

    Since the age of six, when she was plucked from primary school to join an elite sporting programme, Miss Ye’s life has been party to China’s insatiable drive to dominate world sports.

    Yet sometimes, for a young girl, it just gets too much. Her father Ye Qingsong, 45, admitted: ‘Last year, when she was high-altitude training in Yunnan Province, she called home in tears.
    [​IMG] Ye, aged four, has always been a bit of a tomboy

    'She had struggled to acclimatise to the altitude. She was crying because she was performing poorly. We just told her not to push herself too hard, but it was very difficult.’

    At least now, as a national heroine, Miss Ye – an only child – is allowed to phone home.

    For three years, between the ages of 11 and 14, Communist Party apparatchiks demanded she surrender her cherished mobile so she could relentlessly devote herself to the pursuit of glory for her country.

    During this lonely time, powering up and down the swimming pool for hours on end, she was allowed the phone only on Sundays.

    Her mother, Ning Yiqing, 43, found this a particularly heart-wrenching time.

    She said: ‘As a mother, I sometimes felt as though I had lost her. I missed her so much. We were allowed to see her only once a week, and she was only 11. The house felt so empty.’

    She dutifully added: ‘But of course it was all worthwhile. We are so proud of her.’

    Her husband explained that families such as theirs had to make ‘sacrifices’ to the Chinese state, because it was the government which was footing the bill for their children’s Olympics training.
    In the family’s first full interview with Western media, he told me: ‘Chinese people believe that we have to give in order to earn. Give time and effort.

    Competitive sports are quite cruel, and we are competing for the best, so a tough regime is a must, if you want to get where you want to be.

    ‘In the West, you pay a coach to turn you into an athlete. But in China, the state pays, so you have to sacrifice something in return.’

    The couple live in a cramped second-floor apartment in a grey Communist Party housing block in bustling Hangzhou, a city of 8.7million in eastern China.

    The only furniture in the tiny living room is a small table and chairs, and a fridge-freezer adorned with a sticker collection which is the only sign that a child once lived there.
     
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    Mr Ye said his daughter had become mentally exhausted by the diplomatic storm following her triumphs in London, where she not only broke a world record to seize gold, but astonished observers by swimming even faster in the final 50 metres than the men’s winner, Ryan Lochte.


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    Ning Yiqing, 43, the mother of the Chinese swimming superstar, with a newspaper featuring her daughter. Her husband Ye Qingsong explained that families such as theirs had to make 'sacrifices' to the Chinese state because it was the government which was footing the bill for their children’s Olympics training

    [​IMG] The supergirl swimmer powers to gold during the London Olympics


    Mr Ye rejected as ‘offensive’ the suggestion of respected US coach John Leonard that her performance was ‘unbelievable’ and ‘disturbing’ – hinting that doping was involved.
    Miss Ye’s parents have no doubts about the girl they nickname ‘little ghost’ – a term of mischievous endearment equivalent to ‘little terror’.

    'We were allowed to see her only once a week, and she was only 11. The house felt so empty'


    ‘My little ghost has worked exceptionally hard all her life,’ said her father. ‘At times, it has been tough for her, but she has always wanted to do this.

    ‘She has never once said she wanted to give up swimming, but there was a crossroads point when she joined the professional team, aged 11, and I told her, “This is a big decision. If you go forward with this, you will lose things along the way. It will change your life.” She said , “I want to do this”.

    ‘So now I tell her, “You chose this path. If it is tiresome or hard, you have to persist”.’

    There are spine-chilling tales about China’s ruthless sporting boot camps. Children who in Britain would be considered far too young to be driven so hard have reportedly been beaten by their coaches to maximise their achievements.

    [​IMG] Ye and her childhood coach Wei Wei in Nanchang, Jiangxi province last year for a national swimming competition - where she went on to win four gold medals

    British Olympic oarsman Sir Matthew Pinsent, who investigated the methods of training young Chinese athletes, has described it as ‘pretty disturbing’.

    Miss Ye’s family insist there was no such ill-treatment at the Chen Jing Lun Sports School she attended in Hangzhou, or anywhere else.

    ‘Her first cries were so loud and clear, I was convinced the baby must be a boy'


    The school’s vice-dean, Bo Ziyue, said yesterday that 120,000 candidates were whittled down to just 20 students.

    ‘If you have 1,000 sprouts, it’s easier that a tree will grow out of it. What other country can boast such a massive talent pool?’

    Miss Ye’s former coach, Wei Wei, added: ‘She was very competitive and liked challenging older swimmers. This was at odds with her character outside the swimming pool, which was bashful and reserved.’

    Her parents boasted that even in infancy, their daughter was destined for greatness. ‘Her first cries were so loud and clear, I was convinced the baby must be a boy,’ said her father. ‘But I was very pleased to have a girl.’

    [​IMG] The youngster, aged five, with her mother Qing Dingyi, in Hangzhou




    [​IMG] Ye said her success was due to her training since she was identified as a potential champion


    [​IMG] Aged 14, Ye poses with American swimmer Ryan Lochte during a competition in Dubai. Two years later, controversy would surround her amazing Olympic performance - she swam the final 50m of the 400m faster than he did

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    Miss Ye weighed 7lb 13oz at birth. Her mother breastfed her for nine months before returning to her job in a Panasonic factory, where she still works as in the quality control department, earning £650 a month.

    With her father also working long hours, as a tourist guide, baby Ye was packed off to the countryside to live for nearly four years with her maternal grandparents in a smallholding surrounded by cabbage patches and bamboo.

    Her grandmother Zhang Zhengyu, 65, recalled: ‘She had the biggest hands and biggest feet of all the children, and that’s why she’s a strong swimmer. She does look like a boy, and she played like a boy too, always in the dirt and falling off her bike, but she never once cried.’

    On Tuesday, when Miss Ye’s devastating speed left her opponents floundering as she glided to her second gold medal, Granny was watching live at 1am China time on the communal television in Guangming village (pop: 1,200). She and neighbours celebrated by clubbing together to buy fireworks.

    Miss Ye’s father said: ‘When she won gold, we were very proud. But in truth, we expected her to do well because she had achieved very high results in training.

    ‘Deep down, we knew she could win, but we didn’t tell her because we didn’t want her to feel the pressure of expectation.

    'It is her first Olympics, and she is only 16.’

    Spreading out 61 of his daughter’s swimming certificates on his table, he said she had won 50 medals before the age of ten.

    ‘She is naturally talented. She grew up with her grandparents in a rural area where there was space to run around, and she had wide shoulders.

    [​IMG] Young Ye poses with a gold medal next to a friend after a competition. Ye's build gave her an advantage over her peers, propelling her to compete against older children and win provincial competitions aged eight, two years after she had learned to stay afloat

    [​IMG] Ye's father, Ye Qingsong (above), was angry at the allegations of doping during the Olympics - and said one of the reasons for her prowess was because she had always competed against people older than her. Seen here with a selection of her gold medals

    ‘She had more of the character of a boy than a girl. She wasn’t very delicate. When playing, she would fall down but she wouldn’t cry. She had great strength and huge hands, even for a child. By the age of six or seven, she could do 20 pull-ups.’

    Miss Ye’s parents insist she is a normal teenager who likes reading crime novels and painting her nails.

    ‘When she was 14 and 15, she went through a stage where her hormones were acting up and she was very anxious all the time, and refusing to talk to us,’ said her father. ‘She had no patience with anybody. It was quite hard to talk to her.’

    Now, he said, he or his wife talk to their daughter every day.

    ‘Although she has been away from us a lot, we felt OK because she called every day and kept us up to date. There were some off days, but she would tell us when she was sad.’

    Right now, Ye Shiwen has every reason to be relieved, happy and proud of her awe-inspiring achievements. Whether she will be grateful to the Motherland in years to come remains to be seen.
    [​IMG] A boy swims during a training session at Hangzhou Chen Jing Lun Sport school, where Ye had her first swimming lessons aged six

     
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    [​IMG] Where have you been?? This has been known many Olympics ago but more prominantly going into the 2008 one. And then you have "some" around here going on about other countries just not trying hard enough :p.
    As far as the doping accusations of the swimmer, it surely can't be because she is "so young". Surely in swimming teenage phenoms have been around forever. Swimming the last leg of the 400m medley quicker than Lochte but overall much slower. It probably wasn't mentioned for nothing but it would still be interesting to find out what a normal time would be for a male swimmer for the last 50m in a 400m medley [​IMG].
     
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    I've been on earth for long time:D.. Just want to share the latest about this here... what's your takes on this? What do you think? Are they suppose to train those young kids in that kind of manner?
     
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    apart from standing on a childs legs, everything else seems quite normal. each to their own though. you could say forcing a child to do anything is too much, even if it was as painless as 2 hours of piano lessons a week.
     
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    Who Owns The Media? The 6 Monolithic Corporations That Control Almost Everything

    george@chongwei,

    do you realize that those giant mainstream media: REUTERS, AFP, Associated Press (AP), and many others including the giant TV networks are just controlled by few hands? :confused: but i guess you don't.

    Can you validate above stories and pictures by other sources? Above looks like some dramatization serving as a subtle smear campaign... i have read enough those "COMMUNIST" label used as crucifixion in many places for decades!! A little bit surprise to find it here, in a badminton forum.

    Read it at below.
    Read the rest here:
    http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/...trol-almost-everything-we-watch-hear-and-read

    Indeed if one goes on searching the net using these keywords "six monolithic corporations that control mass media", there are many more to see.

    Try it: https://startpage.com/do/search?q=six+monolithic+corporations+that+control+mass+media



    sorry Mods, i know this is a forum about badminton so i try to avoid going too far beyond what matters it's intended for... but sometimes things are just too overtly misrepresented and thus need some rebalancing acts ;)
     
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    george@chongwei Regular Member

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    Alright, got it... thanks for the info...
    Anyway, just read it for your info, and if you wish, u could just look at those article and pictures for your entertainment..;)
     
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    If you could read Chinese, You should compare the english news about China with chinese version. After 2008 Olympic, I stopped reading any news from CNN, BBC etc on China. French media even blocked the news on medal count because they do not want French people to know that China's gold medal ranked number 1.
     
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    Simply because Ryan powered up (which is his style...and buoy himself in the last few metres to the finish) early and fizzled the last 50 metres.
     
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    Don't be so naive. This is what people have to go through just to join the circus, let alone becoming an Olympic champion.

    It's like peeking into a kitchen and then loss the appetite. Something is better not to know.
     
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    Yeah! From now on, let's fully believe what People's Daily, Xinhua, and CCTV say instead. Those are better for future references! ;)
     
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    IMO the best sources are the ALT-Media

    It sounds to be a good idea, at least it makes you learn, expand your mind to read and view from the different perspectives!

    May I add up here the Russia Today's site http://www.rt.com or its 24H TV broadcast, RT, for your additional reference. And while you're there don't miss their programs: Max's "Keiser Report" and the cutie Lauren Lyster's "Capital Account" in particular :D


    Yet IMO, the best source of factual news and analysis come from the many alternative (internet) media, and there are many cool and quality ones in that class! If you'd like to know, just let me know ;) i don't mind to share some great ones with you.
     
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