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Discussion in '2017 Tournaments' started by samkool, Aug 23, 2017.
Nothing to show in majors.
A grand total of 0 wins in a long career.
There are other largest margins of victory in this World Championship so far :
• Mariya Mitsova [BUL] vs Menna Eltanany [EGY] : 21-5, 21-2
• Kim Hyo Min [KOR] vs Hadia Hosny [EGY] : 21-2 21-4
• Isabel Herttrich/Carla Nelte [GER] vs Doha Hany/Hadia Hosny [EGY] : 21-3, 21-6
• Kah Ming Chooi/Low Juan Shen [MAS] vs Nicholas Bonkowsky/Mathew Fogarty [TRI/USA] : 21-2, 21-4
Only in WS and she had shown bit of uncertainty before, notably against Intanon., Nobody equals Lin Dan in mental toughness. Period.
From the current crop of top WS players, she is the only one who has been performing at the very top level since 2009. Any WS player would envy that kind of longevity. She is also the reason for the growth of badminton in India. Before her, which other player from India (apart from Padukone) excelled in a very top level? Even doubters and cynics should value her for that, whether she has any 'majors' or not.
Mir Mehboob Ali
The one you mentioned
PULLELA FREAKING GOPICHAND
As you see long list.
LCW also signifies longevity. An abject failure nevertheless. Atleast LCW has a few SSFs and AEs. Saina has a bare cupboard.
If you sir are happy with that, I pity you.
You have very weird idea of excelling at top if you think that the above mentioned people have excelled at the top. Even Gopichand didn't win many international title. And if you really think that LCW is an abject failure, then I've just wasted my time arguing with you and trying to put across my point.
i think he is saying if you haven't won wc or og you are a failure. so, like, wouldn't that include 99.999% of all players ever... and virtually his whole list?
i'm gonna need clarification from f123...
With that logic, I am pretty such Lee Yong Dae or Peter Gade is a failure in their badminton career.
Thank you Sir. I indeed do think LCW as the very definition of monumental failure.
Indeed you have wasted your precious time.
Gopichand did win more majors than Saina's grand total of ZERO.
Yes it would include my whole list. Of course. That list was answer to the deluded notion that "She is also the reason for the growth of badminton in India" and all that the list proves it that notion is deluded.
not entirely deluded. it's a matter of timing. i don't know the age of the member who you are talking to but maybe he/she was not alive back then. also a major point to consider is the level of exposure there is today compared to pre-social media times.
i have been following badminton news since i was a teenager but i have not heard of most of your list. what year(s) did they play? india's badminton news never reached my part of the world. no newspaper articles, no tv coverage, no internet back then. hell, 90% of my country probably does not know there is a professional badminton circuit... and i live in the u.s.fucking.a.
at least nowadays the continued success of every indian player will no doubt accelerate the interest and growth of the sport for your country. i can't be the only usa fan that envy's india's uprising. have you any idea how lucky you are?
These are players from 1940s onwards. Ever since India attained independence. All of them reached Top 20 status in IBF lists. Most of them reached top 10 status.
Just curious, was there any rankings in the 40's.
well that explains a lot. how many bc'ers out there were born as early as 1920, thus having a chance to be aware of their existence?
IMHO, being second-best for so long during Lin Dan's era cannot be an abject failure, absolutely not.
To me, Lee Chong Wei is certainly one of the all-time greats. He is just unlucky to be born in Lin Dan's era and then just when he thought he could win the big ones in Lin Dan's twilight years, along came Chen Long, The Dragon.
What more to say. That's life. Give him the credit due.
Seedings. In 1950s there were rankings since Natekar was #6 in MS in 1955.
Not just that. Creating a lasting impression in the minds of people also matters. Peter Gade is a great player by that regard.
People in india started showing interest in badminton when SN reached QF in Beijing OG. Her continued good performance helped with funding and government support and only because of that we saw emergence of players like Sindhu and later Srikanth. This helped the sport in India and also at a global level. Gopichand was good but due to no media exposure couldn't inspire many to perform in the same way then.
LCW similarly will inspire many and would always be considered a great player (whether some delusional bcers like it or not).
How old were you in 2001 Sir?
Gopichand rivalled a peak Sachin/Leander/Dhanraj/Anand/Bhaichung in fan following back then.
And in late 1970s 80s; Padukone exceeded Sunny G or Vijay Amritraj or Ajitpal in popularity till the 83 WC win.
Syed Modi was hugely popular as was Popat.
Loads were expected from Gopi in domestic media at Sydney. He was in India Today cover for that Olympics. And that preceded his AE triumph.
Guess you werent alive.
If in 2025 some kid says Lakshya made badminton popular in India how will you react Sir?