what is right and wrong about this video of a guy trying forearm pronation on a smash?

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  1. ralphz

    ralphz Regular Member

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    what is right and wrong about this video of a guy trying forearm pronation (presumably) on a smash

     
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    @ralphz

    Is that you? Suggest you try without the glove if possible.
     
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    @ralphz

    Best if you take off the glove and show us the stroke when you hit the shuttle.
     
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    @Cheung Thanks for your reply, but i'm really asking about the technique. It shouldn't be relevant whether the person in the video is me or not, i'm asking about the technique used by the person in that video. And forget the glove or footwear. .I can observe that almost no badminton players at any level would ever wear a glove, and the person in the video is not demonstrating or practising the art of wearing a glove. What I'm asking about is the racket movement/position, the arm movement/position , wrist movement/position, shown in the video.
     
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    theres no recovery
     
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    No recovery, too much elbow extension (locks the joint out), bit sub-optimal in contact point in spite of joint stressing.
     
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    Why? There are plenty of videos on the internet with correct technique. And we don't even know what shot this video is trying to acheive.
     
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    This looks like a good way to acquire a sports injury. Definitely not good technique in my opinion.
     
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    Thanks for that analysis.. Well spotted.. I can see for sure he's locking out his elbow *sometimes*.

    So here he's locking out his elbow.

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    But here(below) I think he's not locking out his elbow.. which is better..
    And regarding contact point. I understand that it should be above the shoulder, but given that his torso is bent sideways slightly, would above the shoulder optimally be on the green line or optimally on the red line? Or should his torso not be bent?

    And when you said about suboptimal contact point, did you have in mind more that he wasn't taking it in front of him enough. It seems to me like he might be hitting it in front of him at 11:30 which is good/ok. 30min is 15 degrees from the vertical/frontal plane..

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    Green provides the highest contact point. Red would be round the head.
     
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    I think it is a bit difficult to be definitive with the angle of the camera..:)
     
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    Putting aside that he is fully extending his arm, which he shouldn't. I think another point where he is going wrong is he is doing the forearm pronation near the end of the motion. .He extends his arm and then after doing so, he then does the forearm pronation, .and he's not bringing the elbow forward which he should do before he extends his arm. It seems to me like the forearm pronation should happen after the elbow is brought forward and then as the arm is extended...throughout the time the arm is extended. I'd be interested if anybody agrees or disagrees with me on that?
     
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    To me this looks like someone who is trying to pronate rather just looking to hit a shuttle

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