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What Rule(Law) would you change....

Discussion in 'General Forum' started by serviceover, Jan 30, 2006.

  1. serviceover

    serviceover Regular Member

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    If you could change one rule(Law) in Badminton, which one would it be and why.

    I think the new "coaching allowed during the rally" should be removed. Its ok if an umpire is appointed, but chaos in club games......
     
  2. DinkAlot

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    Simple: go back to the 15 point scoring. :p
     
  3. serviceover

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    Apart from the format for scoring.......
     
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    But you didn't say that in your original post. :p

    OK, let's see...I would change...still thinking...
     
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    I'm not sure of the mechanics of it, but I'd like to see the term "waist" redefined to something more easily monitored (maybe contact should be below the hip?)
     
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    Ahhhh good point. But it's hard to discern unless you make everyone tuck in their shirts. :p
     
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    Remove the back service line in doubles.
     
  8. jerby

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    Less vague defination of "waist"

    define how mcuh time the server/receiver has to set up. like: 10secs from the moment you pick up the shuttle...

    change all rules that require the "opinion" of teh ump. like "causing delay" and stuff liek that
     
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    Who would then decide it?
     
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    Ding! WinnAR! That's what I was thinking but couldn't think of it at the time. :p

    Yes, remove the back service line in doubles so the serve is more offensive. In every (or just about every) racket sport, the server has the advantage. The exception is badminton.
     
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    well I mena rules like "nobody shall cause undue delay in the service"(~) shoudl change to "noboday shall delay the sevrice more than X seconds"
    so things won't depend on the ump's personal vieuw (*what's delay?*)

    a ncie example is a basketball rule. the rules states you can't stay longer than 3 secs in the opponents basket when your attacking...this is a good rule if you ask me, no bending only breaking...
    while teh badminton-like-rule woudl state: you cant stay too long in the...yada yada
     
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    But, servers do have the advantage: they're the only who can score. Well, for 2 more days, at least. :)
     
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    hehehe i get what he means - yes, the servers do get to score but in other racquet sports the serves by themselves are offensive shots. any good enough receiver in badminton can always return the shot - his return will decide wether the serving side gets a point tho. with tennis, aces are possible - you serve hard enough with a good aim you always have a chance to score right away.
    of course, it's also what sets badminton apart - strategy. if you're a good short server the receiver is forced more often than not to lift or clear giving your partner a choice of offensive shots from drops to smashes. but the point remains that the serve in badminton by itself is hardly ever an offensive shot.:)
     
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    Well, I was being facetious, partly. I also think that simply removing the rear doubles service line wouldn't make the server in any more of an advantage in a rally-scoring system. Because, by definition, the serve is an upward trajectory shot which is a potential to be attacked. The only thing that the server has going for her/him is surprise. The lack of a rear doubles service line may give the server a little bit more room to surprise the receiver with; but, other than that, all the advantages are with the receiver.

    IMHO, all the rules in badminton (e.g., definitions of legal and illegal shots, court dimensions, etc.) evolve as a whole. Change one part and you can inadvertently, and negatively, impact another and the game. For instance, the much discussed scoring system. I do believe that the definition of a legal serve as it stands currently stems from the fact that if the server commits a bad serve, her/his punishment is a loss of serve, which is a just penalty in a serve-based system. However, if the system is such that the penalty is a loss of serve *and* a loss of point, then, IMHO, the definition of a legal serve should also change to give the server an equal and fair chance to score a point and keep the serve. To me, that means making the serve an offensive shot like an overhead shot.
     
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    For me I think there are a few possibilies of change so that the serve becomes more "offensive":

    1 - allow the server to brush the shuttle or even bring back the serve where you hit the feathers first (I think this was called something like the crocodile serve)
    2 - put a second front line to disallow the receiver to be parked on the front line
    3 - to take out the back line (already mentionned) but this would allow the server to be positionned more in the middle of his side thus making it harder for the receiver to hit a "drive" serve as it would travel over the other half of the receiver side.
     
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    I may have recalled this incorrectly, so if I did please correct me.. but for me I would change the " bird stuck to net as a let ..." to point.
     
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    I did recall incorrectly. My bad.
     
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    I was actually being a little sarcastic when I suggested making the serve more of an offensive shot in a rally-based scoring. Because, the last thing, I think, we want to happen is for badminton to turn into a serve duel. It's already deemed boring enough for most people as it is, imagine how ridiculous it'd look if the game turned into spinning shuttles near the net where each rally involve no more than 2--3 shots. That'd really be the death of badminton. I believe that's why IBF put in the rule about having to hit the cork first because the game was in danger of turning into such spectacle.

    That said, however, I do like the suggestion about allowing a "let" serve in a rally-based scoring system. It gives the server a little breathing room.
     
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    Take out the back service line and I'd be getting more points with my flick serve.

    That and if I had someone on the other side with a weak smash, I'd be able to give them a high serve to the back.

    Gives me more of a chance to get points on my serve.
     

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