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Which two players will meet in the Women's Singles final in Rio?

Discussion in 'Olympics 2016 - RIO' started by pcll99, Apr 30, 2016.

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Which two players will meet in the Women's Singles final in Rio?

Poll closed Aug 23, 2016.
  1. Ratchanok INTANON

    44.8%
  2. Carolina MARIN

    41.8%
  3. LI Xuerui

    35.8%
  4. Nozomi OKUHARA

    17.9%
  5. WANG Shixian

    6.0%
  6. WANG Yihan

    17.9%
  7. SUNG Ji Hyun

    1.5%
  8. Saina NEHWAL

    13.4%
  9. TAI Tzu Ying

    6.0%
  10. PUSARLA V. Sindhu

    4.5%
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  1. SolsticeOfLight

    SolsticeOfLight Regular Member

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    They might as well not be playing.
     
  2. raymond

    raymond Regular Member

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    Is the draw after pool play made? I couldn't find it in tournamentsoftware. This is crucial in our prediction. In pool plays, we can eliminate some players, however.
     
  3. nilesh123

    nilesh123 Regular Member

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    Nope that's for doubles, u may refer to AlanY's thread he has done all the efforts to post draws for all the disciplines.
     
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    raymond Regular Member

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    I didn't read all the threads (but I did check this thread from 1st to last, but couldn't find AlanY's post that has WS draw). Without possible first round draw after pool play, it's not possible to see who would be in the final !

    Would appreciate it if you (or someone) could kindly post that draw. :)
     
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    raymond Regular Member

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    Great! Thanks. Didn't know it's that "straight-forward" in assignment. If that is the case, here my predictions:

    QF
    Carolina / Sung Ji Hyun
    Li Xuerui / Saina

    Nozomi / Ratchanok
    Tai Tzu Ying / Wang Yihan

    SF
    Carolina / Li Xuerui
    Ratchanok / Tai Tzu Ying

    F
    Carolina / Ratchanok
     
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    Here is AlanY's pic

    [​IMG]
     
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    Just read in the other thread that Ratchanok may have doping issue. If she can't recover from this fast enough, I'd have to replace her with another one, either TZY or Nozomi.
    LXU is good, but she would run into Carolina in SF. and my bet is that Carolina would prevail... It seems the Chinese recently have some mental issues. On the other hand, Carolina is fast, consistent, and mentally strong.
     
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    She is cleared of any suspicion of doping ok.
     
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    nilesh123 Regular Member

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    I guess he was referring to the mental consequences this incident coz, which can adversely affect RI's performance.
    The same scenario as that of the "cleared" Russian Delegation
     
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    The head-to-head could be misleading -
    1. From pure match scoring perspective, no one has a dominance over all others. Outcome here would depend on match-up, which we could predict using this H-H table (assuming it's a clear indicator).
    2. Some wins and losses may be in more distant past (e.g. what are the oldest results we use here?). A result recorded 2-3 years ago would have less significance than one recorded in the last 2-3 months.
    3. Individual fatigue level may be different - some may have played more tournaments (to get points?) and gotten more tired, thus lost. Or got a tougher draw in a particular tournament. Note that I'm referring to those close match-ups (e.g. 3-4, 4-5).

    Also, the score-sheet doesn't account for how major a tournament is. Presumably a major title in, e.g., All England would be more significant than other smaller ones. There I assume all coaches/athletes would adjust to peak at that time, and thus we could see what they could do when they're at their peaks.
     
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    Wrong thread :p
     
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    Obviously, it is gonna be Saina vs Sindhu!:p
     
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    You have some good points.
    First , let s give credit to Alan for doing excellent research in this area.
    Perhaps you can add on to Alan s hard work by doing a similar H2H summary but covering the period spanning the OG qualifying tournaments?
     
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    Saina s possible but Sindhu s not in the H2H so no idea. From my observations, Saina s probably the smartest WS but she hasn't got the best physical and mental stamina to lift the gold. Still you never know, I expect an upsets galore in WS.
     
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    IMO PVS got better chances then SN! We still can't compare them, but SN got an impenetrable wall (for her atm) LXR in QF. Whereas PV is a dark horse she can coz some serious damage to the seeded party.
     
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    Can't agree much, SN is absolutely fine as far as the dept of stamina is concerned, mental fitness?? Hmm that's suspicious sometimes, like her last encounter against the OG champ LXR (India SS) she faltered on the crucial points( including one service error iirc). But against players not named (LXR and TTY) she has shown steely resolve on numerous events.
    Only her agility is a question + she ain't 'smart' as LXR either. I might sound harsh but it's true when I compare our mega star to the 'most talented player' (IMO) LXR.
     
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    Looks like Ratchanok Intanon and Carolina Marin tops the list. But as said this WS category has been thrown wide open and anything can just happen. So it is really an exciting event indeed.
     
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